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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 14:12:45 -0600
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From: Stratton Davis
Subject: Re: You'll never believe.....
All this discussion of unlikely places to hear CT tunes...reminds me of
when I used to work at The Gap on the drag in Austin, TX. The Gap(along
with Banana Republic and Old Navy) have tapes made for all their stores to
play at different times of the year. Well, when I was an employee(before
the time of Frosty) there I used to hear Carolyn's Fingers, Sigh's Smell of
Farewell, Iceblink Luck and Heaven or Las Vegas on a regular basis. More
recently I've heard Bluebeard and Frosty. They always have Frosty on their
tapes right now so anyone who hasn't heard it can go camp out at your local
Gap. Those tapes run about 3 hours so you may have to wait awhile, but
you'll definitely hear it.
Stratton
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 15:19:59 EST
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From: COBWEB777
Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com)
Subject: Re: internal quarals umung us fans
Look you people, I started this a couple of weeks ago when I publicly stated
my opinion about a 30 $ cd single. I had not realized that I was wrong at the
time until alot of kind people opened my eyes. Please drop this whole
aggressive attack against Mender. She is just offering an opening where for
some people there is none.
If you think about it, When you go to a used cd store to pick up CT stuff, The
artists do not get any of THAT money. This is just ridiculous. I apologize
again for starting this but you need to think about it for a little bitand
yes, you should E the person directly if you have a problem with them.
Thank you,
Cobweb
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 15:28:51 EST
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From: Gawla
Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com)
Subject: muzak bluebeard
i work at Pratt's grocery store in oklahoma city. a few nights ago at work i
too heard Bluebeard in muzak form played over the entire store. odd...
gawla
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 15:47:33 EST
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From: COBWEB777
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Subject: Don't hate me for this :}
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 13:23:02 PST
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From: "Berk ~"
Subject: Re: While in England....
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>Just curious; are you speaking of an old Album with Liz, Robin and
>Simon printed on the vinyl itself? I got this in LA maybe 9 years
>ago. It is an interview (you get to hear Liz discuss the >difficulties
of cleaning her contact lens).
============================================
Yes, that's the one, but I'm pretty sure it was issued on CD also.
~Berk
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 15:34:43 -0500
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From: John and Brian
Subject: Re: Don't hate me for this :}
Please don't fill mailboxes with this junk. This list has been really good
at avoiding this kind of thing. I would like to see it stay that way, too.
If you think people are going to possibly hate you for something like this,
then just don't do it. Plain and simple.
Nappy Folidays!
JohninGB
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> From: COBWEB777
> To: COCTEAU-L@WEBNT.CKS.COM
> Subject: Don't hate me for this :}
> Date: Monday, December 15, 1997 3:47 PM
>
> Subject: Hawaiian good luck totem
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 13:44:43 PST
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From: "Berk ~"
Subject: The NEXT project...
I have a great idea for our next project, after the CT video. A
compilation of Muzak versions of CT songs!! Whadda ya think Strat, are
ya up for it? ;) {Of course, we'll need everyone take a recorder along
while dining out, and doing their Christmas shopping!}
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 15:55:11 -0600
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From: Les/Richard
Subject: Re: The NEXT project...
Hi All...
My name is Les and I just joined this morning. What's this I read
about a CT video?
Les
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> From: Berk ~
> To: COCTEAU-L@WEBNT.CKS.COM
> Subject: The NEXT project...
> Date: Monday, December 15, 1997 3:44 PM
>
> I have a great idea for our next project, after the CT video. A
> compilation of Muzak versions of CT songs!! Whadda ya think Strat, are
> ya up for it? ;) {Of course, we'll need everyone take a recorder along
> while dining out, and doing their Christmas shopping!}
>
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 14:39:27 -0800
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From: Jennifer Dunnam
Subject: Re: the edge of Christmas.......
>now meandering through
>EVERY
>compilation ever created
>l oo king for "Frosty".......
Try "The Coolest Christmas"
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 17:50:43 -0500
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From: Matt Gross
Subject: Re: The NEXT project...
hahahahahahaha!!!! sounds like a great idea to me... very very original!
: )
Berk ~ wrote:
> I have a great idea for our next project, after the CT video. A
> compilation of Muzak versions of CT songs!! Whadda ya think Strat, are
> ya up for it? ;) {Of course, we'll need everyone take a recorder along
> while dining out, and doing their Christmas shopping!}
>
--
Matt Gross
http://whirljack.home.mindspring.com/
whirljack@mindspring.com
****************************************************
"...don't think coz' i understand, i care
don't think coz' i'm talking, we're friends..."
--Sneaker Pimps from 6 Underground
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 17:57:08 EST
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From: "C.K. Coney"
Subject: Re: CT video compilation update
Stratton,
So...I read up on msgs, and unfortunately have to inform you that I do
*not* have stereo capabilities. My decks are "prosumer" Panasonic decks
I bought for purposes of editing, and I had to give up stereo to be able
to get the complete editing system I wanted, with decks at $1,200 apiece.
Stereo would have cost me $5,000 per unit...way beyond my budget at the
time. When I've done music vids (twice) I've had to take the post work to
a production house with better equipment. So, sorry but I just don't have
two stereo decks. (And I also probably don't have all the videos Mender
referred to anyway, so I would have needed her or someone to make me
masters.)
Anyway, congrats on organizing the CT tape thing.
Peace,
Carol
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 20:26:17 EST
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From: "C.K. Coney"
Subject: Re: internal quarals umung us fans
On Sat, 13 Dec 1997 14:18:01 EST GARLANDS22 writes:
>HEY GUYS,
>I KNOW WHERE EVERY ONE IS COMING FROM WITH THIS
Ouch, my *ears*! That shouting seems like a pure attack on Mender.
Several of us didn't know she was copying *four* tapes for
people...that's why we were confused about costs & fairness of trades.
But no one screamed at her about it...everything seems to have been
clarified by now. So...please put Treasure on your cd player, have some
wine and mellow out!
Carol
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Date: Mon, 15 Dec 1997 21:49:38 -0600
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From: Eric Dickerson
Subject: Re: While in England....
Yes, I have this interview as well. I got it on cd about 7 years ago at
Tower Records in Berkeley, CA.
Youth Dynamics, Inc. wrote:
> Just curious; are you speaking of an old Album with Liz, Robin and
> Simon printed on the vinyl itself? I got this in LA maybe 9 years
> ago. It is an interview (you get to hear Liz discuss the difficulties
> of cleaning her contact lens).
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Berk ~
> To: COCTEAU-L@WEBNT.CKS.COM
> Date: Monday, December 15, 1997 9:40 AM
> Subject: While in England....Brian, I have a suggestion of
> something to look for while you're in
> England....the CT Interview disc (aka picture disc). If you
> find one,
> and don't want it for yourself, I promise to buy it from you
> for at
> least double what you pay.
>
> ~Berk
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 00:12:39 -0600
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From: Carrie
Subject: Re: Bluebeard Muzak
I have actually heard Bluebeard in a number of places, most memorably
yesterday at Souper Salad and a few months ago while I was studying at
House of Pies. It's somewhat disturbing.... given the type of music (or
muzak) that preceds and follows...
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 00:19:39 -0800
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From: Orville Jackson III
Organization: University of California, Berkeley
Subject: Edge of Christmas
Just picked up the Edge of Christmas compilation today. I now have both
of the songs from Snow! I got Frosty a little earlier on the Sharks
Patrol These Waters comp. Not much else on the Edge floats my boat, but
I also got the first Very Special Christmas cd (the red one). It doesn't
have any Cocteau Twins on it, but some great versions of x-mas tunes by
Alison Moyet, Eurhythmics, and the Pretenders (all female vocalists whom
I adore.)
Anyway, it's on my player right now as I procrastinate on the mother of
all take home finals :-) I'm thinking of dubbing my favorites from this
onto a tape with the Twins' versions of Frosty and Winter Wonderland and
some other seasonal stuff to give out to friends. Does anyone have any
suggestions of things in a similar vein? Maybe we could make it a list
project. You know, compile the ultimate christmas compilation . . .
--
Orville Jackson III
- That which does not kill us goes on our permanent record.
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 03:32:09 -0600
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 08:25:49 -0600
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From: "Fritch, William"
Subject: Re: muzak bluebeard
Why don't you ask the manager if you can make a copy of it? Or is it
that radio channel that you can access like cable that plays musak 24
hours a day and you can pick which format of music you like to listen
to? Let me know, I am very interested. If it is that cable radio
access channel then I will contact someone I know that works for that
company for a copy of it...:o)
-----Original Message-----
From: Gawla [SMTP:Gawla@aol.com]
Sent: Monday, December 15, 1997 2:29 PM
To: COCTEAU-L@WEBNT.CKS.COM
Subject: muzak bluebeard
i work at Pratt's grocery store in oklahoma city. a few nights
ago at work i
too heard Bluebeard in muzak form played over the entire store.
odd...
gawla
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 08:31:21 -0600
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From: "David M. Blalock"
Subject: Re: Edge of Christmas
Greetings, Orville,
First, let me thank you for your ancient posting dated Wed, 15 Oct 1997
01:28:21.
I believe that it was in that message that I learned of the availability of
both of the Snow tracks on the Oglio "The Coolest Christmas" and "The Edge
of Christmas" compilations. I immediately ordered both of them from CDnow
(http://www.cdnow.com) and have been enjoying the "artificial Snow" ever
since.
Now, in your posting dated Tuesday, December 16, 1997 2:19 AM, you wrote:
> [stuff deleted]
> ... I also got the first Very Special Christmas cd (the red one). It
> doesn't have any Cocteau Twins on it, but some great versions of
> x-mas tunes by Alison Moyet, Eurhythmics, and the Pretenders
> (all female vocalists whom I adore.)
Can you please pass along the publisher and catalog number for this? It
sounds really interesting.
> Anyway, it's on my player right now as I procrastinate on the
> mother of all take home finals :-) ...
As they say on the boards, "Break a leg" on your final.
> ... I'm thinking of dubbing my favorites from this
> onto a tape with the Twins' versions of Frosty and Winter
> Wonderland and some other seasonal stuff to give out to friends.
I've taken to doing something like this from time to time, and over the
years these personal compilations take on a life of their own and get to be
real favorites, and not just a Christmas.
> Does anyone have any suggestions of things in a similar vein?
> Maybe we could make it a list project. You know, compile the
> ultimate christmas compilation . . .
Sounds good to me... May I suggest that you try to find a copy of "A Lump
Of Coal" (First Warning, 72705-75702-2, 1991). I bought it especially for
the "Little Drummer Boy" done by the Hoodoo Gurus, but the Henry Rollins
"'Twas the Night Before Christmas" is not to be missed.
And in a somewhat different direction, but one of my favorites (after the
CT Snow tracks) for this year is "Greensleeves" (performed with santur,
bass, tabla, and percussion) on "Nomad Christmas - A World Music
Celebration". (Nomad, NMD 50314, 1997) From the cover: "Jazzy arrangements
spice classic Christmas tunes with flavors of India, Brazil, Bulgaria, and
the Mid East." Definitely not the Twins, but great for cleansing the
musical palate.
Once again, iceblink luck on your final and a Merry Christmas to all of the
List-Folk,
-dmb
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 06:53:57 PST
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From: "Berk ~"
Subject: Re: Introduction
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Bartosz~~you might want to look for any of the EPs or singles (or the
box set), or the full length album Victorialand.
~Berk
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 12:11:16 -0800
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From: "Donald A. Riley"
Subject: Re: Edge of Christmas
>Greetings, Orville,
>
Snip
>> ... I also got the first Very Special Christmas cd (the red one). It
>> doesn't have any Cocteau Twins on it, but some great versions of
>> x-mas tunes by Alison Moyet, Eurhythmics, and the Pretenders
>> (all female vocalists whom I adore.)
>
>Can you please pass along the publisher and catalog number for this? It
>sounds really interesting.
>
The 'A Very Special Christmas' compilations are put out byA&M. The first
one came out in 1987 and I believe the catalog # is CD 3911 / DX 2159. And
the proceeds benefit Special Olympics, good music for a good cause!
>Once again, iceblink luck on your final and a Merry Christmas to all of the
>List-Folk,
>-dmb
Thanx, it's now T - 30 minutes to zero hour . . .
Orville Jackson III
--
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an
invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet,
balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem,
pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die
gallantly. Specialization is for insects." Robert Heinlein
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 19:40:09 -0500
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From: "leesa (mender)"
Subject: anybody got this stuff?
hello all....i recently came across 2 items, which i quickly added to my
collection, and i was wondering how rare (if at all) these items were. i'd
be interested in hearing from anyone else who has these items and how much
they paid for them. thanks!
(1) this mortal coil 10" vinyl with 2 tracks: "come here my love" and=
"drugs"
(2) cocteau twins 7" vinyl with 2 tracks: "pearly-dewdrops' drops" and
"peppertree"
=20
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~ mender ~ =20
leesa beales
the cocteau caf=E9:
http://www.cocteautwins.org/~leesa/cocteautwins/cHTML/
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 19:10:32 EST
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From: SSmart3089
Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com)
Subject: merci......
about this edgey thing-
thanks for letting me know
what I should have seen
had I l oo ked
inside.......
and s ee n
a 1-800- number to call
telling me where
tobuythisthingy......called
"frosty".
I am looking into making that phone calling thingamajig
tomorrow.
Shawn
l oo king forward to the video.......oh oh oh ohhhhhhhh......
why don't i hear "frosty"?
i shop.
i go out and mingle.
i want to hear "frosty"!
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 19:54:05 -0500
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From: "leesa (mender)"
Subject: let it snow, let it snow, let it snow
my xmas gift to 5 people who are interested.....
i've made 5 audio duplications of my "snow" cd and i'm willing to send them
to you free of charge. all you have to do is email me.
=20
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~ mender ~ =20
leesa beales
the cocteau caf=E9:
http://www.cocteautwins.org/~leesa/cocteautwins/cHTML/
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 20:04:09 -0500
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From: Pixel & Sprite
Subject: Re: Edge of Christmas
You might consider Tori Amos' version of "Little Drummer Boy," and
Everything But the Girl's "25th December" both found on a Christmas
Compilation called "You Sleigh Me!" which also includes a few other familiar
artists. Yesterday, I also ran into Esquivel (lounge) doing versions of
Christmas songs on his own personal holiday album, as well as Harry Connick,
Jr. - I think he releases one every year. All of these definitely a few
possibilities. I suggest going to your local independent music shop to see
what else might be available, considering they always carry neat, unusual
stuff, like Esquivel's album.
Orville Jackson III wrote:
> Just picked up the Edge of Christmas compilation today. I now have both
> of the songs from Snow! I got Frosty a little earlier on the Sharks
> Patrol These Waters comp. Not much else on the Edge floats my boat, but
> I also got the first Very Special Christmas cd (the red one). It doesn't
> have any Cocteau Twins on it, but some great versions of x-mas tunes by
> Alison Moyet, Eurhythmics, and the Pretenders (all female vocalists whom
> I adore.)
>
> Anyway, it's on my player right now as I procrastinate on the mother of
> all take home finals :-) I'm thinking of dubbing my favorites from this
> onto a tape with the Twins' versions of Frosty and Winter Wonderland and
> some other seasonal stuff to give out to friends. Does anyone have any
> suggestions of things in a similar vein? Maybe we could make it a list
> project. You know, compile the ultimate christmas compilation . . .
>
> --
> Orville Jackson III
>
> - That which does not kill us goes on our permanent record.
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 20:12:20 EST
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From: Suedeluvr
Organization: AOL (http://www.aol.com)
Subject: CT VIDEO WANTED
kyle smith
p.o. box 293
clyde, texas 79510-0293
vhs-ntsc
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 18:50:20 -0800
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From: onid snave
Subject: Re: Edge of Christmas
How about "Fuck Christmas" by Fear (The Record), and "Junky's Christmas" by
William S. Burroughs w/ the Disposable Heroes of Hiphoprisy (Spare Ass
Annie). Just to mix things up a bit. ;-)
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> From: Orville Jackson III
> To: COCTEAU-L@WEBNT.CKS.COM
> Subject: Edge of Christmas
> Date: Tuesday, December 16, 1997 12:19 AM
>
> Just picked up the Edge of Christmas compilation today. I now have both
> of the songs from Snow! I got Frosty a little earlier on the Sharks
> Patrol These Waters comp. Not much else on the Edge floats my boat, but
> I also got the first Very Special Christmas cd (the red one). It doesn't
> have any Cocteau Twins on it, but some great versions of x-mas tunes by
> Alison Moyet, Eurhythmics, and the Pretenders (all female vocalists whom
> I adore.)
>
> Anyway, it's on my player right now as I procrastinate on the mother of
> all take home finals :-) I'm thinking of dubbing my favorites from this
> onto a tape with the Twins' versions of Frosty and Winter Wonderland and
> some other seasonal stuff to give out to friends. Does anyone have any
> suggestions of things in a similar vein? Maybe we could make it a list
> project. You know, compile the ultimate christmas compilation . . .
>
> --
> Orville Jackson III
>
> - That which does not kill us goes on our permanent record.
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 19:02:01 -0800
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From: Jef-Marcel Encinas
Subject: Re: Edge of Christmas
I am presently at work on my Christmas compilation and trying to line up
the songs that'll make it onto this year's edition. Instead of cards i
like to make these comps and ship them off to friends! Perhaps those of
you doing something similar would care to swap? That way we have more
fodder for next year's comp! This is 1996' track listing :
***************************************************** YOU'RE MY
CHRISTMAS! 1996 : STEPHANIE SAYERS : Candy-Fisted
Christmas (sounds like a Sundays track) / THE RONETTES : Sleigh Ride /
SNAP : Mary Had A Little Boy / SAINT ETIENNE : I Was Born On
Christmas Day / WHAM : Last Christmas (don't laff, i still like it) /
B-TRIBE : Peace On Earth / COCTEAU TWINS : Winter Wonderland / LOVE
SPIRALS DOWNWARDS : Welcome Christmas (from the Grinch!) B-side :
AUTOPSIA: Stille Nacht / JULIA FORDHAM : December 24th / EVERYTHING BUT
THE GIRL : 25th of December / KRISTIN HERSH : Jesus Christ / JEWEL :
Angel Standing By / TORI AMOS : Little Drummer Boy / BEL CANTO : Agnus
Dei ******************************************************or perhaps
1995's :
******************************************************SSHHHHHHHH..HE'S
HERE : 1995 : TRASH CAN SINATRAS : Outside / COCTEAU TWINS :
Frosty The Snowman / ERASURE : She Won't Be Home / AZTEC CAMERA : Hot
Club of Christ / BETTER THAN EZRA : Merry Christmas Eve / STONE TEMPLE
PILOTS : Christmastime Is Here (the Charlie Brown tune) / DAVID BOWIE &
BING CROSBY : Little Drummer Boy / DURUTTI COLUMN : One Christmas For
Your Thoughts / VIRGINIA ASTLEY : track from Melt The Snow / SHELLEYAN
ORPHAN : Ice / SAINT ETIENNE : My Christmas Prayer / ENYA : Silent Night
/ PETER GABRIEL : With This Love / RYUICHI SAKAMOTO : Father Christmas /
BJORK : Icelandic Christmas Song.
****************************************************** hope to hear some
new xmas tunes from u folks! Jef-Marcel
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 19:18:29 -0800
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From: onid snave
Subject: Re: Edge of Christmas
How 'bout "Santa Claus" by Throwing Muses?
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> From: Jef-Marcel Encinas
> To: COCTEAU-L@WEBNT.CKS.COM
> Subject: Re: Edge of Christmas
> Date: Tuesday, December 16, 1997 7:02 PM
>
> I am presently at work on my Christmas compilation and trying to line up
> the songs that'll make it onto this year's edition. Instead of cards i
> like to make these comps and ship them off to friends! Perhaps those of
> you doing something similar would care to swap? That way we have more
> fodder for next year's comp! This is 1996' track listing :
> ***************************************************** YOU'RE MY
> CHRISTMAS! 1996 : STEPHANIE SAYERS : Candy-Fisted
> Christmas (sounds like a Sundays track) / THE RONETTES : Sleigh Ride /
> SNAP : Mary Had A Little Boy / SAINT ETIENNE : I Was Born On
> Christmas Day / WHAM : Last Christmas (don't laff, i still like it) /
> B-TRIBE : Peace On Earth / COCTEAU TWINS : Winter Wonderland / LOVE
> SPIRALS DOWNWARDS : Welcome Christmas (from the Grinch!) B-side :
> AUTOPSIA: Stille Nacht / JULIA FORDHAM : December 24th / EVERYTHING BUT
> THE GIRL : 25th of December / KRISTIN HERSH : Jesus Christ / JEWEL :
> Angel Standing By / TORI AMOS : Little Drummer Boy / BEL CANTO : Agnus
> Dei ******************************************************or perhaps
> 1995's :
> ******************************************************SSHHHHHHHH..HE'S
> HERE : 1995 : TRASH CAN SINATRAS : Outside / COCTEAU TWINS :
> Frosty The Snowman / ERASURE : She Won't Be Home / AZTEC CAMERA : Hot
> Club of Christ / BETTER THAN EZRA : Merry Christmas Eve / STONE TEMPLE
> PILOTS : Christmastime Is Here (the Charlie Brown tune) / DAVID BOWIE &
> BING CROSBY : Little Drummer Boy / DURUTTI COLUMN : One Christmas For
> Your Thoughts / VIRGINIA ASTLEY : track from Melt The Snow / SHELLEYAN
> ORPHAN : Ice / SAINT ETIENNE : My Christmas Prayer / ENYA : Silent Night
> / PETER GABRIEL : With This Love / RYUICHI SAKAMOTO : Father Christmas /
> BJORK : Icelandic Christmas Song.
> ****************************************************** hope to hear some
> new xmas tunes from u folks! Jef-Marcel
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 22:21:04 EST
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From: Fairieglo
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Subject: Re: Edge of Christmas
you must hear loreena mckennitt's "a winter garden" it has 4
christmas/winter tracks....
quite beautiful.....
~melanie
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Date: Tue, 16 Dec 1997 22:26:26 EST
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From: Suedeluvr
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Subject: Re: let it snow, let it snow, let it snow
i am soooooooooooooooo interested...
luv & whales tales,
kyle
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 00:49:46 EST
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From: Tetsuo Boi
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Subject: Re: anybody got this stuff?
In a message dated 12/16/97 4:49:25 PM, you wrote:
<>
hey mender,
i have the this mortal coil 10". i paid $5.99 US back in 1987. also on the
protective sleeve along with sticker price is " rare limited printing ".
lotsalove
david
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 07:24:32 +0000
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From: contact@MGB.TV.CO.UK
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Subject: Re: let it snow, let it snow, let it snow
dear mender
please send me a copy i'll promise to be good in 1998 !
yours hopefully
mickey
drink guinness
xx
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 08:58:25 -0500
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From: "leesa (mender)"
Subject: 5 COPIES OF SNOW.....
as you can imagine i received a ton of requests for this tape but can
really only afford to send out 5 copies. the list below includes the names
of the first 5 people to send me email messages requesting a copy. please
contact me directly with your mailing addresses.
(1) greg walker
(2) brian sandford
(3) rene garcia
(4) siuberto socarras
(5) tad rollow
=20
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~leesa beales~
{{{{mmmmender}}}}
=09
~~~The Cocteau Caf=E9~~~
http://www.cocteautwins.org/~leesa/cocteautwins/cHTML/
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 14:22:33 EST
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From: Gawla
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Subject: flaming lips christmas
the flaming lips have two good christmas tunes, "little drummer boy" and
"christmas at the zoo" have fun
gawla
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 11:45:16 -0800
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From: Rey
Subject: Re: let it snow, let it snow, let it snow
I want One!
My experience with the twins is limited to 4CC and treasure, although a
"friend" borrowed treasure....forever. Out in the sticks, were I am, the
nearest store that has any CD's is in Oregon state, about an hour drive
away.
By the way all, my name is Rey, I'm 32 y.o. and I meek out a miserable
existence in Long Beach WA fixing peoples pipes. I'm a plumber and I'm ti=
red
of it too! HA!
First heard the Twins in 91 on a comp tape a friend made. He never labele=
d
the tape, so I never knew who it was. The tape was stolen in 92, along wi=
th
the car.... And it wasn't until early this year that I found out who was =
on
that tape. Needless to say I ordered 4CC and treasure. I got 4CC, but the
lady at the record store said treasure was out of print..... SOL I guess.
If anyone knows of stores that might carry CT on the SW Washington Coast =
or
NW Oregon coast, tell me about them PLEEEZZEE!
I've been a member of this ListServ for a few days now, just reading stuf=
f
and I got to say----I Like It!
Rey.
-----Original Message-----
From: leesa (mender)
To: COCTEAU-L@WEBNT.CKS.COM
Date: Tuesday, December 16, 1997 4:58 PM
Subject: let it snow, let it snow, let it snow
my xmas gift to 5 people who are interested.....
i've made 5 audio duplications of my "snow" cd and i'm willing to send th=
em
to you free of charge. all you have to do is email me.
-------------------------------------------------------
~ mender ~
leesa beales
the cocteau caf=E9:
http://www.cocteautwins.org/~leesa/cocteautwins/cHTML/
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 15:35:04 EST
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From: "C.K. Coney"
Subject: Re: Edge of Christmas
On Tue, 16 Dec 1997 00:19:39 -0800 Orville Jackson III
writes:
>Just picked up the Edge of Christmas compilation today. I now have
>both
>of the songs from Snow! I got Frosty a little earlier on the Sharks
>Patrol These Waters comp. Not much else on the Edge floats my boat,
>but
>I also got the first Very Special Christmas cd (the red one).
> I'm thinking of dubbing my favorites from
>this
>onto a tape with the Twins' versions of Frosty and Winter Wonderland
>and
>some other seasonal stuff to give out to friends. Does anyone have any
>suggestions of things in a similar vein? Maybe we could make it a list
>project. You know, compile the ultimate christmas compilation . . .
I'd nominate "O Holy Night" by Happy Rhodes on her "The Keep" cd.
Carol
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 13:46:52 -0800
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From: Joseph Schlottman
Subject: Goldblink luck rush
Every time I hear "Iceblink Luck," the first "chorus" where Liz sings
"you're the match" etc, & then keeps pouring out the words faster and
faster, I find myself swept away by her, and when she finally gets to
"exquisite stuff, yes" I'm shaking my head & saying to all my friends,
"did you HEAR that?" & they never seem as impressed by it as I am. I
can't exactly describe what about that part of the song is so amazing,
but it's the way she seems to get so caught up in the singing that she
just practically bursts out of the song structure and goes skyrocketing
up into the air - & then back to the "verse" structure again with the
next lines ("you yourself and your father", etc). Yep, genius. Never
heard anything else quite like it. This song absolutely overflows with
ebullience. It makes me happy to listen to it, so I'm convinced it's
about being very happy. "Iceblink Luck" is just the most brilliant song
title I can imagine for this song! I too like to play with words and Liz
Fraser fascinates me no end with the way she evokes emotions & images.
Here's something else that struck me the other day: on Head OVer
Heels there's a song called Gold Dust Rush. I read about Robin (right?)
having a cocaine addiction. Of course "gold dust" is a name for cocaine
(Fleetwood Mac "Gold Dust Woman"). So I imagine the song's at least
partially about cocain. "In the gold dust rush I can only
genu-u-FLAY-e-ect." But what a funny play on "gold rush." Sometimes I
think she must be a little insane, in a brilliant way, to come off with
these wacked song titles & otherwordly melodies.
On Sun, 14 Dec 1997, Tad Rollow wrote:
> These lyrics we're talking about are, for me, right in and through one
> of the most wonderful cadences I hear in their music. The songs winds
> up to this spectacular groove between Simon and the beatbox, and I'm
> always fantasizing about being one of two live drummers with Simon
> locking this up on stage, it'd be fantastic. (Well, I fantasize about
> other things, too, but that's my CT dream...)
>
> This big peak in the song comes as Liz is screwing completely with the
> rhythmic placement of these cherry cola lines - she sings something in
> there that slides them to a WEIRD place in the meter - she's a genius -
> I'm convinced it was done completely intuitively, too.
>
> Along with Mizake the Mizan and Watchlar this is one of my most favoritest
> EPs of theirs. I usually think of HOLV as a completely different mood,
> but now I'm not so sure :)
>
> Zarbet
>
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 19:46:11 -0500
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From: Paul Spirito
Subject: Re: let it snow, let it snow, let it snow
> that tape. Needless to say I ordered 4CC and treasure. I got 4CC, but =
the
> lady at the record store said treasure was out of print..... SOL I =
guess.
Good news! "Treasure" isn't out of print & neither are any of the other =
CT albums. Now, where to find them...
I don't know any good record stores in the Pacific Northwest, but if you =
have web access you can buy them online. Here are a couple of places:
http://cdnow.com
http://www.cdconnection.com
or through the Cocteau Twins' own Digital Parking Lot:
https://www.midi.net/cocteau/order.html
By the way, the official CT website is at:
http://www.cocteautwins.com
If you don't have web access, there are stores (e.g. Tower) which do =
telephone mailorder. I don't have the phone numbers handy, but I'm sure =
someone else could supply them.
Paul
"This was in a faraway land. There were=20
gyms but no irony or coffee shops. People took
things literally, without drugs."
~Lorrie Moore
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 19:42:06 -0800
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From: "Donald A. Riley"
Subject: Re: Goldblink luck rush
Well, I'm now an official Kollege gradewate, folks ;-)
Of course, my first action will be to go out tonight and get comfortably
numb, but I had to check my e-mail first :-)
The comments on Iceblink Luck are really interesting to me because this has
always been one of my favorite CT tunes. The feelings it induces are
indescribable, so of course I will now attempt to do so . . .
Iceblink Luck is like a piece of morning, at the moment just before sunrise
when the it's light out but the light seems to have no source. It exists
for me in that semi-fugue state between sleep and wakefulness, where you
can hold an entire coherent conversation and not even remember it, or
recall it only as a dream. Iceblink Luck is an awakening.
It's funny, I tend to associate songs with a particular time of day.
Iceblink luck (as you may have surmised) is definitely a morning song for
me. I can wake up, play this song, and be reassured that there is beauty in
the world. Does anyone else associate songs with a time of day? Maybe it's
just me :-)
In other news . . . I just picked up the Judge Dredd soundtrack and guess
who was on it! Is Need Fire something the Twins did just for this project,
or is it available elsewhere?
Orville Jackson III
--
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an
invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write a sonnet,
balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying, take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a new problem,
pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight efficiently, die
gallantly. Specialization is for insects." Robert Heinlein
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Date: Wed, 17 Dec 1997 23:37:40 -0800
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From: Rey
Subject: Re: let it snow, let it snow, let it snow
Thanks for the links Paul, and the rest of the info! Atleast I know there is
hope!! And CTs website is how I got to this list and I'm really enjoying
it! Thanks again.
-----Original Message-----
From: Paul Spirito
To: COCTEAU-L@WEBNT.CKS.COM
Date: Wednesday, December 17, 1997 4:50 PM
Subject: Re: let it snow, let it snow, let it snow
> that tape. Needless to say I ordered 4CC and treasure. I got 4CC, but the
> lady at the record store said treasure was out of print..... SOL I guess.
Good news! "Treasure" isn't out of print & neither are any of the other CT
albums. Now, where to find them...
I don't know any good record stores in the Pacific Northwest, but if you
have web access you can buy them online. Here are a couple of places:
http://cdnow.com
http://www.cdconnection.com
or through the Cocteau Twins' own Digital Parking Lot:
https://www.midi.net/cocteau/order.html
By the way, the official CT website is at:
http://www.cocteautwins.com
If you don't have web access, there are stores (e.g. Tower) which do
telephone mailorder. I don't have the phone numbers handy, but I'm sure
someone else could supply them.
Paul
"This was in a faraway land. There were
gyms but no irony or coffee shops. People took
things literally, without drugs."
~Lorrie Moore
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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 08:00:29 -0600
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From: "Fritch, William"
Subject: Re: Goldblink luck rush
Regrettably, need fire is only on Judge Dredd. I was hoping it would be
released on a single, ep, or album like they did with alice. There is
always hope.:o)
-----Original Message-----
From: Donald A. Riley [SMTP:oj3@UCLINK4.BERKELEY.EDU]
Sent: Wednesday, December 17, 1997 9:42 PM
To: COCTEAU-L@WEBNT.CKS.COM
Subject: Re: Goldblink luck rush
Well, I'm now an official Kollege gradewate, folks ;-)
Of course, my first action will be to go out tonight and get
comfortably
numb, but I had to check my e-mail first :-)
The comments on Iceblink Luck are really interesting to me
because this has
always been one of my favorite CT tunes. The feelings it induces
are
indescribable, so of course I will now attempt to do so . . .
Iceblink Luck is like a piece of morning, at the moment just
before sunrise
when the it's light out but the light seems to have no source.
It exists
for me in that semi-fugue state between sleep and wakefulness,
where you
can hold an entire coherent conversation and not even remember
it, or
recall it only as a dream. Iceblink Luck is an awakening.
It's funny, I tend to associate songs with a particular time of
day.
Iceblink luck (as you may have surmised) is definitely a morning
song for
me. I can wake up, play this song, and be reassured that there
is beauty in
the world. Does anyone else associate songs with a time of day?
Maybe it's
just me :-)
In other news . . . I just picked up the Judge Dredd soundtrack
and guess
who was on it! Is Need Fire something the Twins did just for
this project,
or is it available elsewhere?
Orville Jackson III
--
"A human being should be able to change a diaper, plan an
invasion, butcher a hog, conn a ship, design a building, write
a sonnet,
balance accounts, build a wall, set a bone, comfort the dying,
take orders,
give orders, cooperate, act alone, solve equations, analyze a
new problem,
pitch manure, program a computer, cook a tasty meal, fight
efficiently, die
gallantly. Specialization is for insects." Robert
Heinlein
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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 19:14:02 +0100
Reply-To: Denis Fahmi
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From: Denis Fahmi
Subject: Bluebeard 12"
If one of you is interested...I found a Bluebeard 12" (vinyl)
at the record shop next door...
even in small small Switzerland they know CT...
And I can present myself (my English may be bad...but I usually speak =
French)
So, my name's Denis and I live in Geneva (Switzerland)
I'm 29 years old...and I listen to Tiny Dynamine (on the computer's CD =
player)
and I'm a fan for two years now (quite miserable when some of you are =
fans from the begining) ...but I learn fast and get all CT music I could =
find (not everything in Switzerland)...
first album heard? Garlands...found it weird at first glance and then =
get addicted (very strongly...but I don't want to be cured...thanks)
Des oeufs et leur coquilles
Denis
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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 13:58:22 -0500
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From: "leesa (mender)"
Subject: autographed
anyone interested in brand new AUTOGRAPHED Blame Someone Else?
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~leesa beales~
{{{{mmmmender}}}}
=09
~~~The Cocteau Caf=E9~~~
http://www.cocteautwins.org/~leesa/cocteautwins/cHTML/
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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 20:04:50 +0100
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From: Klaus
Subject: Xmas Mood
Hallo Listies,
after all these xmas-recommendations again my favourite xmas-sampler (of cause
after the "Snow"), because i think, many new members here in these list are
interesting for that.
These sampler is more in the silent kind, etheric, dark, like the nature in
these time..
The title of these CD is:
Excelsis - A dark Noel
from the Projekt label. (PROJEKT 62)
And here are the tracks from these CD:
Carol of the bells Arcanta
welcome Christmas Love spirals downwards
oh come all ye faithful FuchiKachis Ethu
Carol of the bells This Ascension
o come Emmanuel Area
the first noel Thanatos
jingle bells (snowblower) Loveliescrushing
what child is this? Balderas & Osborn
Chanukkah, oh Chanukkah Black Tape for a blue Girl
the little drummer boy Sorrow
we three kings Lycia / The unquiet Void
o holy night Eva O
a winter Wassail Faith and the Muse
stille Nacht Autopsia
silent night Attrition
best xmas-wishes to all ...
Klaus
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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 14:46:00 -0500
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From: David Miles
Subject: Re: You'll never believe.....
Comments: To: John & Kelley Neff
Joey-
I had a similar experience once at McDonald's, when I realised that the Muzak I
was listening to was actually Ozzy Osbourne's "Crazy Train". I was espescially
tickled by the Muzak arranger's attempts to recreate Randy Rhodes's guitar solo
using horns and a string section.
David.
P.S. - I agree with you. Mmmmender does'nt deserve the kind of abuse
that was heaped upon her recently. Although it's sad to see someone being cruel
to Mmmmender, I applaud the way that most people are sticking up for her.
-----Original Message-----
From: John & Kelley Neff at hcinternet-server
Sent: Sunday, December 14, 1997 3:45 PM
To: COCTEAU-L@WEBNT.CKS.COM at HCINTERNET-SERVER
Subject: You'll never believe.....
You'll never believe this (but then again it IS Christmas...)
My family and I were having a quick dinner at (here goes...) Hometown
Buffet tonight with the normal "muzak" thing going on in the background.
I started subconsciously humming the song that was playing (I'm one
of those people that cannot ignore music in any form), when it dawned on
me what I was humming "are you the right man for me? are you safe are
you my friend? or are you toxic for me? will you betray my confidence?"
Yes, it was undeniably Bluebeard, in muzak form. My husband actually
caught it at the same time I did. I guess I stopped so suddenly upon
the
realization that I was actually hearing CT at HOMETOWN BUFFET, that I
looked like I was choking. Has anyone else had an experience like this?
Also, everyone, please be kind to each other. Some of you have been
kinda harsh to mmmmender. She really doesn't deserve that. I'm really
glad for her that she's been having the kind of experiences that we all
wish we could have. I think we're lucky to have her in our midst, and
doubly lucky that she will share her experiences with us! As far as the
video sharing thing, do you finger-pointers really know how
time-consuming it would be tp fill all those video requests? I
understand she's a Mom, has another one on the way, goes to school and
works! I KNOW FIRSTHAND HOW LITTLE FREE TIME SHE HAS!
thanks for listening!
- joey -
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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 13:15:19 -0800
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From: Jef-Marcel Encinas
Subject: This Holiday Season...Give The Gift Of SNOW!!!!!!!
* * + + * @ ++
* * ** * *
* + + *
* * @ * +
@ + * * *
hey gang, have a couple of copies left of the US pressing of the Cocteau
Twins' SNOW ep!! This is not in the compact disc format. rather, it's
on red vinyl!! These were originally made for US jukebox machines.
They bear no picture sleeve (white paper jacket) and are in mint
condition. I am selling them for $30 (postage paid) Write in soon to
reserve. Thanks + * @* + @
+ + * * * * *
* * + + + *
* @ + + + + *
* _________________________________
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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 14:17:06 -0800
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From: Jef-Marcel Encinas
Subject: a cocteau question
Maybe now is not the time to ask this, as a number of u are in
school, heading home, seeing family, working longer hours and
whatnot....but have listies ever organized any get-togethers? I am in
los angeles myself, and would love to meet and hang out with other
Cocteau Twins fanatics! We could all rendevous somewhere public and/or
perhaps arrange a video-screening party! Play CT music all night, have
some food brought in, have a few laughs, engage in some trading, chat up
a storm and just have a good time!!! Would like to see how many
Southlanders we have on the list who would be up for it (perhaps early
in the new year!) So take your time, think it over and get back to me!
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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 15:53:20 PST
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From: "Berk ~"
Subject: Re: This Holiday Season...Give The Gift Of SNOW!!!!!!!
Content-Type: text/plain
Jef, I sent you an e-mail to reserve one of these. Please let me know
if you did not receive it.
~Berk
===================================
>
>* * + + * @ ++
>* * ** * *
>* + + *
>* * @ * +
>@ + * * *
>hey gang, have a couple of copies left of the US pressing of the
Cocteau
>Twins' SNOW ep!! This is not in the compact disc format. rather, it's
>on red vinyl!! These were originally made for US jukebox machines.
>They bear no picture sleeve (white paper jacket) and are in mint
>condition. I am selling them for $30 (postage paid) Write in soon to
>reserve. Thanks + * @* + @
>+ + * * * * *
>* * + + + *
>* @ + + + + *
>* _________________________________
>
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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 18:43:49 -0500
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From: drakkar
Subject: Snow for an interview CD
I have a 'Snow' CD in excellent condition that I will trade for the
interview disc (CD version) in the same condition. If anyone is interested
in this trade, please e-mail me directly.
~Berk
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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 21:39:39 -0500
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From: Brian Sandford
Subject: Wondering about "Live in London" quality
Hey, I recently saw a "Live in London" 1986 Cocteau Twins CD at one of =
our little CD stores here in Tampa, and I wondered if anyone knew what =
kind of quality I could expect if I bought it. It cost $15 -- not much =
more than a normal CT recording, which makes me wonder about the sound =
quality.
Thanks in advance, and a public thank you to Ms. Mender, who was kind =
enough to make the Snow audiocassette offer about five minutes before I =
logged onto the Internet. ... :)
Brian
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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 20:14:26 -0800
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From: Doug Moon
Subject: Re: Wondering about "Live in London" quality
In my opinion, this is a great sounding bootleg. I think you'll be happy with the sound quality -- I was.
Doug
Brian Sandford wrote:
> Hey, I recently saw a "Live in London" 1986 Cocteau Twins CD at one of our little CD stores here in Tampa, and I wondered if anyone knew what kind of quality I could expect if I bought it. It cost $15 -- not much more than a normal CT recording, which makes me wonder about the sound quality.
>
> Thanks in advance, and a public thank you to Ms. Mender, who was kind enough to make the Snow audiocassette offer about five minutes before I logged onto the Internet. ... :)
>
> Brian
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 21:22:13 +1100
Reply-To: Robert Raiskums
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From: Robert Raiskums
Subject: Re: a cocteau question
It's a nice and probably well-intentioned idea Jef-Marcel, but Internet is
actually an international medium. That means that there are countries other
than the USA represented on this email list.....
However, if you are willing to fly to Australia, I'd be happy to have you
over for dinner.
-----Original Message-----
From: Jef-Marcel Encinas
To: COCTEAU-L@WEBNT.CKS.COM
Date: Friday, 19 December 1997 8:47
Subject: a cocteau question
Maybe now is not the time to ask this, as a number of u are in
school, heading home, seeing family, working longer hours and
whatnot....but have listies ever organized any get-togethers? I am in
los angeles myself, and would love to meet and hang out with other
Cocteau Twins fanatics! We could all rendevous somewhere public and/or
perhaps arrange a video-screening party! Play CT music all night, have
some food brought in, have a few laughs, engage in some trading, chat up
a storm and just have a good time!!! Would like to see how many
Southlanders we have on the list who would be up for it (perhaps early
in the new year!) So take your time, think it over and get back to me!
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 08:47:05 -0500
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From: "leesa (mender)"
Subject: Re: Wondering about "Live in London" quality
well....i have to offer my opinion on "live in london" and say that it is
the worst cocteau bootleg that i've ever heard! i also have the "pearly
pink & white" bootleg cd which is a tad better as far as quality goes,
neither of them are really worth writing home about, if you know what i
mean. i think one of the best bootlegs out there is the "black sessions"
recorded in paris, try to get your hands on that one!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~leesa beales~
{{{{mmmmender}}}}
=09
~~~The Cocteau Caf=E9~~~
http://www.cocteautwins.org/~leesa/cocteautwins/cHTML/
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 08:53:08 -0500
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From: FA ken clinger
Subject: CT Live Boots
Speaking of CT live recordings...
Tho it seems the Cocteau Twins aren't in favor of releasing live material,
did they make "from the boards" recordings when they toured? I just
want to know if they even exist (and where they store the tapes, if
so....).
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 08:55:12 EST
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From: Raxalah
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Subject: Re: Edge of Christmas
In a message dated 97-12-16 21:46:34 EST, dknow@IX.NETCOM.COM (onid snave)
wrote:
<< Junky's Christmas" by William S. Burroughs w/ the Disposable Heroes of
Hiphoprisy (Spare Ass Annie). >>
AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!!!!
i have been lookign for this Disposable Heroes release for EVER!!!! can you
email me the info off of it so that maybe i can order it from the record co???
Raxalah "the drug of a nation" :)
Raxalah@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 08:59:09 EST
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From: Raxalah
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Subject: Re: Edge of Christmas
In a message dated 97-12-16 22:11:58 EST, hirty5gramclub@webtv.net (Jef-Marcel
Encinas) wrote:
<< am presently at work on my Christmas compilation and trying to line up
the songs that'll make it onto this year's edition. Instead of cards i
like to make these comps and ship them off to friends! Perhaps those of
you doing something similar would care to swap? That way we have more
fodder for next year's comp! This is 1996' track listing : >>
i make an "End of the Year Tape" every year ( i don't call it he Christmas
Tape, since i'm not a christian, however -- it makes a fine gift for such
purposes...). anyway, i don't fillit with x-mas music, just with good stuff
from the year. sort of a personal, "best of". i would be willing to
trade....i can upload the setlist to anyone who wants it. one note: "Muscle
and Want" made the Best Of tape...i just like the vocals (not to be sucking up
to mmmmmmender' or anything, but i really like it....).
Raxalah@aol.com
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 08:10:27 -0600
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From: "Fritch, William"
Subject: Re: Wondering about "Live in London" quality
I would have to agree with mmmmmender on this one. Nice to have but =
the
quality can't compare with some of the other ones I recently acquired.
Another postie just informed me that Lincoln Fong was wanting to trade
DATS?!!! He said however he hasn't been able to reach him to
substantiate this rumor. Do any of you have any more information
concerning this? =20
otterley=20
-----Original Message-----
From: leesa (mender) [SMTP:scribble@NETCOM.CA]
Sent: Friday, December 19, 1997 7:47 AM
To: COCTEAU-L@WEBNT.CKS.COM
Subject: Re: Wondering about "Live in London" quality
well....i have to offer my opinion on "live in london" and say
that it is
the worst cocteau bootleg that i've ever heard! i also have the
"pearly
pink & white" bootleg cd which is a tad better as far as quality
goes,
neither of them are really worth writing home about, if you know
what i
mean. i think one of the best bootlegs out there is the "black
sessions"
recorded in paris, try to get your hands on that one!
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~leesa beales~
{{{{mmmmender}}}}
=09
~~~The Cocteau Caf=E9~~~
http://www.cocteautwins.org/~leesa/cocteautwins/cHTML/
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 09:10:48 EST
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From: Jody White
Subject: Re: LIve in London Sound Quality
To the person who was asking about the sound quality of "Live in
London", I think it's great for a bootleg -- possibly the best CT
bootleg I've heard. Plus, it's from the Victorialand/Moon and the
Melodies tour, so you hear things you don't ordinarily hear in
concert, including one instrumental which was never released, and as
far as I know, is not available anywhere else.
"Live in London" was limited to a few thousand copies, and each is
numbered. It will be rare, so if you see it, snatch it up!
Jody White
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 09:18:40 -0500
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From: "leesa (mender)"
Subject: Re: CT Live Boots
>Speaking of CT live recordings...
>Tho it seems the Cocteau Twins aren't in favor of releasing live material,
>did they make "from the boards" recordings when they toured? I just
>want to know if they even exist (and where they store the tapes, if
>so....).
there are soundboard recordings in existance, (as well as live footage of
concerts) i'm lucky enough to own one of these soundboard recordings, the
quality is fantastic. as for where they are stored.....they are all in a
tiny little room at september sound, about the size of a closet. i was
also lucky enough to visit this little room where they keep ALL of their
master tapes, it's a little cocteau museum. you look around and see boxes
with stuff printed on them like...."TREASURE MASTER" you feel like
fainting! i took a picture of simon in that room which you can see at the
following link:
http://www.cocteautwins.org/~leesa/cocteautwins/cgraphix/masters.jpg
.......yours.......
-leesa
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 08:23:52 -0600
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From: "Fritch, William"
Subject: Re: LIve in London Sound Quality
Mime-Version: 1.0
Content-Type: text/plain
Jody, They say it is limited to 1,000 copies but is really not limited
to that many, just a gimmick. My copy says limited to a 1,000 copies
and that mine is number 4,000 something. It may be limited to a 1,000
copies each time they make a batch. :o) otterley
-----Original Message-----
From: Jody White [SMTP:psy5jdw@TITAN.VCU.EDU]
Sent: Friday, December 19, 1997 8:11 AM
To: COCTEAU-L@WEBNT.CKS.COM
Subject: Re: LIve in London Sound Quality
To the person who was asking about the sound quality of "Live in
London", I think it's great for a bootleg -- possibly the best
CT
bootleg I've heard. Plus, it's from the Victorialand/Moon and
the
Melodies tour, so you hear things you don't ordinarily hear in
concert, including one instrumental which was never released,
and as
far as I know, is not available anywhere else.
"Live in London" was limited to a few thousand copies, and each
is
numbered. It will be rare, so if you see it, snatch it up!
Jody White
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 09:31:18 -0500
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From: "leesa (mender)"
Subject: Re: LIve in London Sound Quality
>"Live in London" was limited to a few thousand copies, and each is
>numbered. It will be rare, so if you see it, snatch it up!
>Jody White
i have to burst your bubble on this one jody and tell you that although
"live in london" is numbered, it's not limited to 1000 copies. many
people, including myself, own copies that state "1005/1000 copies"....go
figure! simon and i were speaking about this particular album and he says
he knows the guy who prints it, apparently he is currently in his 9th run
of 1,000 limited editions!!=20
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~leesa beales~
{{{{mmmmender}}}}
=09
~~~The Cocteau Caf=E9~~~
http://www.cocteautwins.org/~leesa/cocteautwins/cHTML/
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 07:28:03 PST
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From: "Berk ~"
Subject: Re: LIve in London Sound Quality
Awww, geez! You mean my #1,095 isn't really one of only 1,000? Last
time I was tricked like that was when I bought that Da Vinci of the dogs
playing poker.
I think the recording itself is pretty good though, and for $15, it's a
bargan!
~Berk
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although
>"live in london" is numbered, it's not limited to 1000 copies. many
>people, including myself, own copies that state "1005/1000
copies"....go
>figure! simon and i were speaking about this particular album and he
says
>he knows the guy who prints it, apparently he is currently in his 9th
run
>of 1,000 limited editions!!=20
>
>
>~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ~leesa beales~
> {{{{mmmmender}}}}
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 08:44:43 -0800
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From: Jef-Marcel Encinas
Subject: Re: a cocteau question (a response)
Comments: To: Robert Raiskums
ha ha ha I KNOW that the internet is an Intl medium! that's why i asked
for Southlanders (people in the Southern california area! not all mail
going out has to serve the planet, it may also include things on a
national, state,city,AND local community level!).....provided of course,
the subject matter is still in keeping with its area of expertise. I
was simply (and rather innocently) asking if people would care to come
out and play in the new year ( again, in LA) once having collected
names, then I could proceed to carry on communication via private email
. but it does require this "international medium" to get the message
across. Just had to answer back cuz Mr Raiskums made me feel as if I
had been fool enough to believe that the internet was indeed an
LA-exclusive medium. However, I will take up his
dinner-invite....say Summer of 99?
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 17:54:56 +0000
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From: Adam Sykes
Subject: Re: LIve in London Sound Quality
In message <19971219152803.16681.qmail@hotmail.com>,
Berk ~ writes
>Awww, geez! You mean my #1,095 isn't really one of only 1,000? Last
>time I was tricked like that was when I bought that Da Vinci of the dogs
>playing poker.
>I think the recording itself is pretty good though, and for $15, it's a
>bargan!
>
>~Berk
I agree with Leesa,
The recording is nothing special at all.. weak in fact.. especially as
the wow and flutter of the tape is audible on numerous tracks.
although it's a far better recording than "Lovers Are Mortal"!
But I'd be interested in getting live CD's of Cocteaus more recent
tours.. namely HOLV and 4CC... anyone know of places that sell
these CD's?
--
Adam Sykes
IRIS LIGHT RECORDS
Fax: +44 (0) 1637 881543
WebSite: http://www.irislight.demon.co.uk
Forthcoming Releases:
i-LIGHT004CD SZEKI KURVA "The Sound Of Dead Goats"
i-LIGHT007CD HOODLUM PRIEST "Hoodlum Priest"
i-LIGHT008CD AUBE "Substructural Penetration 91-95"
i-LIGHT009CD BLUE "Nightwork"
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Date: Thu, 18 Dec 1997 11:29:55 -0800
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From: Amy Conger
Subject: CT: Muzak
i had a dream a long long time ago:
i am in a shabby old supermarket, looking at the produce
i suddenly realize that love's easy tears is playing overhead
it's a muzakized version, complete with shoo-bops!
my companion and i look at each other and burst out laughing
i woke up giggling :}
amy
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 12:13:46 -0800
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From: ella megalast burls forever
Subject: funny story
so i=B4m here in portugal going to school, and there=B4s some other english
speaking students with whom i hang out in a kind of commiseration of the
unknown phenomenon, and the other week i was going to class and ran into
one of them, and he told me how he saw this sign in the metro that the
cocteau twins were playing here that night and wondered if myself and my
boyfriend Rui knew about it, since we were the ones who even told him about
the band, and if we were going he wanted to come along. oh but first he
was like, you know that band, the cocteau brothers.. and so i asked him if
it was definitely the cocteau twins, since he couldn=B4t even remember their
name, and he said for sure, it was just that the twins part was in
portuguese. so then i promptly informed him how impossible it was that the
cocteau twins were playing here or anywhere for that matter because there=B4=
s
no current tour nor even any new album and why would they choose to play
two nights in lisbon portugal just for the heck of it. but he insisted he
saw the sign, and so i said i would call him when i found out and just went
to class, where in the class i saw another girl who told me about the same
sign they had seen, so i explained to her the reasons as well why they
wouldn=B4t be playing. but of course by now my curiousity was driving me
crazy to know what it really was they were talking about, so i skipped my
next class and ran to first meet Rui to tell him about the sign, whereupon
he explained to me the very same reasons i had already expressed my own
doubt with, but we had to go find out what it was.
so what was it, you are all dying to know?
turns out, we found the same sign, which was actually for a theater company
in porto, and they were advertising something about cocteau gemeos. so of
course the sign really did say cocteau twins-gemeos is twins in
portuguese-but it wasn=B4t THE cocteau twins.
but now my wondering is does anyone know anything about this? i deprehend
it=B4s a play, the only other information there was was names: cocteau, one =
i
forget, james conway, and nino carinhas. =20
oh well, i thought it was funny.
maria
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 14:41:05 -0600
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From: "Fritch, William"
Subject: Re: funny story
Maybe had to do with Jean Cocteau, the writer?
Milk & kisses,
Otterley (bryan)
so i=B4m here in portugal going to school, and there=B4s some other
english
speaking students with whom i hang out in a kind of
commiseration of the
unknown phenomenon, and the other week i was going to class and
ran into
one of them, and he told me how he saw this sign in the metro
that the
cocteau twins were playing here that night and wondered if
myself and my
boyfriend Rui knew about it, since we were the ones who even
told him about
the band, and if we were going he wanted to come along. oh but
first he
was like, you know that band, the cocteau brothers.. and so i
asked him if
it was definitely the cocteau twins, since he couldn=B4t even
remember their
name, and he said for sure, it was just that the twins part was
in
portuguese. so then i promptly informed him how impossible it
was that the
cocteau twins were playing here or anywhere for that matter
because there=B4s
no current tour nor even any new album and why would they choose
to play
two nights in lisbon portugal just for the heck of it. but he
insisted he
saw the sign, and so i said i would call him when i found out
and just went
to class, where in the class i saw another girl who told me
about the same
sign they had seen, so i explained to her the reasons as well
why they
wouldn=B4t be playing. but of course by now my curiousity was
driving me
crazy to know what it really was they were talking about, so i
skipped my
next class and ran to first meet Rui to tell him about the sign,
whereupon
he explained to me the very same reasons i had already expressed
my own
doubt with, but we had to go find out what it was.
so what was it, you are all dying to know?
turns out, we found the same sign, which was actually for a
theater company
in porto, and they were advertising something about cocteau
gemeos. so of
course the sign really did say cocteau twins-gemeos is twins in
portuguese-but it wasn=B4t THE cocteau twins.
but now my wondering is does anyone know anything about this?
i deprehend
it=B4s a play, the only other information there was was names:
cocteau, one i
forget, james conway, and nino carinhas. =20
oh well, i thought it was funny.
maria
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:15:52 EST
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From: Fairieglo
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Subject: Re: LIve in London Sound Quality
In a message dated 12/19/97 6:19:38 AM, you wrote:
<<"Live in London" was limited to a few thousand copies, and each is
numbered. It will be rare, so if you see it, snatch it up!
>>
i think we have discovered that it may not be so rare...a lot of us see it all
the time, if there were only a few thousand copies, that would not be the
case. although we've yet to find anyone with duplicated numbers...
~melanie
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:19:22 EST
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From: Fairieglo
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Subject: Re: CT Live Boots
In a message dated 12/19/97 6:26:46 AM, you wrote:
<>
i too have a soundboard recording, and yes it is wonderful....i also have a
friend of the cocteaus who has been allowed in to video soundchecks, and even
a few shows i think. he did play them for us at a party once, but i was so
high on E that i only heard the sound. although i was receiving a mighty nice
back massage from robin at the time.....
~melanie
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 17:07:48 EST
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From: Raxalah
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Subject: Re: a cocteau question (a response)
In a message dated 97-12-19 11:59:54 EST, you write:
<< Just had to answer back cuz Mr Raiskums made me feel as if I
had been fool enough to believe that the internet was indeed an
LA-exclusive medium. However, I will take up his
dinner-invite....say Summer of 99? >>
ya know.....i've always wanted to see the Outback! we could go visit him and
then drive/hike out to Ayers Rock!!!!
Raxalah
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 17:16:50 EST
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From: Raxalah
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Subject: Re: You'll never believe.....
In a message dated 97-12-16 02:11:47 EST, you write:
<< All this discussion of unlikely places to hear CT tunes...reminds me of
when I used to work at The Gap on the drag in Austin, TX. >>
i have a similar story! i used to work at Starbucks in Atlanta, and there was
a regular customer named Charles, who was an amateur jazz musician. he taught
me a lot about Bird, and Miles, etc. we talked a lot about music. anyway, in
the summer of 1995 Starbucks released some in-store tapes that were "New
Wave". one of them had "Pandora" on it, and once when Charles was in he asked
me, "Wow, what is this cool music?!?!?" so i went on a rant about the Twins
and what he should get etc. and he kind of freaked out that i had so much to
say in response to his question.
but he went out and bought _Victorialand_. his comment, "Bitchin Sax!"....
Rax.
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 06:57:52 -0800
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From: Doug Moon
Subject: Re: Wondering about "Live in London" quality
Doug Moon wrote:
>=20
> Let me clarify a bit -- most, if not all, bootlegs sound like shit comp=
ared to
> a soundboard recording. There are two concert bootlegs circulating on C=
D that
> I know of: "Pearly Pink and White" from the FCC tour and "Live In Londo=
n 1986"
> from a pre-BBK show. Of the two, I think the latter has the best overal=
l
> sound, and Liz SANG the songs in 1986 (she was improvising alot on the =
FCC
> tour). Some of the 1986 tracks are quite stunning. There are better boo=
ts (I
> guess), but of the CD choices, I think 1986 is the best buy. But ya kno=
w, I
> haven't heard the "Black Sessions" thing on CD.
>=20
> As for the soundboard tapes - I know of two: The band made some live
> recordings on the HOLV tour, and a few live tracks from the M&K tour we=
re
> prepped for the planned "Calfskin Smack" (I think) single that never
> materialized. These recordings may be released sometime........any info=
on
> that mmmmender?
>=20
> Doug
>=20
> leesa (mender) wrote:
> >
> > well....i have to offer my opinion on "live in london" and say that i=
t is
> > the worst cocteau bootleg that i've ever heard! i also have the "pear=
ly
> > pink & white" bootleg cd which is a tad better as far as quality goes=
,
> > neither of them are really worth writing home about, if you know what=
i
> > mean. i think one of the best bootlegs out there is the "black sessi=
ons"
> > recorded in paris, try to get your hands on that one!
> >
> > ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> > ~leesa beales~
> > {{{{mmmmender}}}}
> >
> > ~~~The Cocteau Caf=E9~~~
> > http://www.cocteautwins.org/~leesa/cocteautwins/cHTML/
Let me clarify a bit -- most, if not all, bootlegs sound like shit compar=
ed to
a soundboard recording. There are two concert bootlegs circulating on CD =
that
I know of: "Pearly Pink and White" from the FCC tour and "Live In London =
1986"
from a pre-BBK show. Of the two, I think the latter has the best overall
sound, and Liz SANG the songs in 1986 (she was improvising alot on the FC=
C
tour). Some of the 1986 tracks are quite stunning. There are better boots=
(I
guess), but of the CD choices, I think 1986 is the best buy. But ya know,=
I
haven't heard the "Black Sessions" thing on CD.=20
As for the soundboard tapes - I know of two: The band made some live
recordings on the HOLV tour, and a few live tracks from the M&K tour were
prepped for the planned "Calfskin Smack" (I think) single that never
materialized. These recordings may be released sometime........any info o=
n
that mmmmender?
Doug
leesa (mender) wrote:
>=20
> well....i have to offer my opinion on "live in london" and say that it =
is
> the worst cocteau bootleg that i've ever heard! i also have the "pearly
> pink & white" bootleg cd which is a tad better as far as quality goes,
> neither of them are really worth writing home about, if you know what i
> mean. i think one of the best bootlegs out there is the "black session=
s"
> recorded in paris, try to get your hands on that one!
>=20
> ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
> ~leesa beales~
> {{{{mmmmender}}}}
>=20
> ~~~The Cocteau Caf=E9~~~
> http://www.cocteautwins.org/~leesa/cocteautwins/cHTML/
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 19:00:14 EST
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From: "John E. Schmid"
Subject: Cocteau Rare (SNOW- RED VINYL) and Not so rare Auction
The following items, that I'm willing to part with, are up for auction.
E-mail me privately at: John_Schmid70@juno.com and I will keep you
updated on the high bids. The auction closes Jan. 20th.
Rare:
RED VINYL 'SNOW'
on Capitol; Nice red vinyl 7" w/Frosty and Winter Wonderland (no cover
art)
LIVE "Rilkean Heart" on The Difference with Todd Rundgren. 2 disc radio
show of various artists w/interview of Robin and Simon. Only live track
on CD in which they must of had a hand in producing.
Cocteau Twins Collector Disc
Promo Compilation from Capitol w/Sighs Smell, Wax and Wane, Sugar Hiccup,
Lorelei, Little Spacey, Carolyn's Fingers, Plain Tiger, and Iceblink Luck
not so rare:
Garlands w/Peels Session
Lonely is an Eyesore CD
Otherness/Twinlights press bio w/photo
4CC press bio
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 16:19:15 -0800
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From: Jennifer Dunnam
Subject: You'll Never Believe ... Twice!!
Last night, while I was Christmas shopping, I heard CT in not one store,
but two! First, I was in a little mall and I heard the familiar tinkly
sounds of "Frosty". I followed the sound into a small clothing store.
Wasn't looking for clothes, but I stayed in there for a couple minutes.
About an hour later, I stepped from the street into Cheapo Records, where
they were playing "Pandora." I commented ecstatically about it to the
woman behind the counter, but she had no idea what I was talking about and
seemed a little taken aback. Oh well . . .
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 21:08:36 EST
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From: TREY MILL
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Subject: Re: funny story
I HAVE LISTENED TO THE COCTEAU TWINS NOW FOR OVER SEVEN YEARS. AND I HAVE TO
TELL YOU THEIR SOUND IS HAUNTING. WHEN I HEAR BLUE BELL KNOLL I GET
GOOSEBUMPS...DOES ANYONE OUT THERE FEEL THIS EXISTENTIAL ANGST IN THEIR
MUSIC?....OR DOES VICTORIALAND EVER MAKE YOU FEEL THAT SOMEHOW THESE GUYS
HAVE UNLOCKED FEELINGS THAT CAN ONLY BE EXPRESSED WITH
MUSIC........................................???? I OFTEN WONDER HOW I WOULD
PRODUCE MUSIC AND I KEEP COMING BACK TO THE ETHEREAL SOUNDS OF THE COCTEAU
TWINS. I'VE LISTENED TO WHAT HAS BEEN WRITTEN RECENTLY, AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU
GUYS LIKE CHRISTMAS SONGS, BUT WHAT I THINK YOU GUYS LIKE MOST IS THE CT'S
INTERPRETATION OF CHHRISTMAS SONGS. INTERSTINGLY, I'M WRITING THIS MESSAGE
WHILE I'M LISTENING TO BJORK'S LATEST ALBUM HOMOGENIC AND REALIZE THAT I'M
PRAISING CT'S EFFORTS WHILE LISTENING TO ANOTHER PERSON SING. . . .ISN'T
THAT SOMETHING??????MY OTHER FAVORITE BAND IS LUSH AND I'M SURE THAT MANY
OUT THERE HAVE AN OPINION ABOUT THIS BAND AND SINCE I JUST STARTED C HATTING
WITH ALL OF YOU I'M INTERESTED IN YOUR FEELINGS ABOUT THIS BAND AND THEIR
SOUND NEW AND OLD. DO I SOUND ANTAGONISTIC? I DON'T MEAN TO. I'M IN
HOUSTON , TX AND INVITE ALL OF YOU TO RESPOND AND TO DROP BY LITERALLY......
BOBBY R. MILLER JR.
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Date: Fri, 19 Dec 1997 18:42:27 -0800
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From: Joseph Schlottman
Subject: Re: funny story
You don't sound antagonistic, you just sound LOUD. TYPING IN CAPITALS IS
CALLED SHOUTING, and it hurts my ears!
But I agree with some of your comments. They are definitely
haunting and they have inspired me to want to make music. Blue Bell
Knoll has some astounding 'epiphany' moments (as I call 'em), like the
end of Itchy Glowbo Blow, and the guitar work on track 7 whose title I
forget. Athol-Brose is one of my faves and Liz's delicately spiralling
vocal on Carolyn's Fingers sends shivers up and down this white boy's
spine. Like fairy-music! I get this vision that she's throwing out
hoola hoops with her voice, musical hoola hoops that sparkle and
disintegrate into the air leaving rainbow-colored tracers that bewitch your
eyes as they fall to the earth and vanish. Only poetry can come close to
describing the feelings the Twins' music has evoked in me.
On Fri, 19 Dec 1997, TREY MILL wrote:
> I HAVE LISTENED TO THE COCTEAU TWINS NOW FOR OVER SEVEN YEARS. AND I HAVE TO
> TELL YOU THEIR SOUND IS HAUNTING. WHEN I HEAR BLUE BELL KNOLL I GET
> GOOSEBUMPS...DOES ANYONE OUT THERE FEEL THIS EXISTENTIAL ANGST IN THEIR
> MUSIC?....OR DOES VICTORIALAND EVER MAKE YOU FEEL THAT SOMEHOW THESE GUYS
> HAVE UNLOCKED FEELINGS THAT CAN ONLY BE EXPRESSED WITH
> MUSIC........................................???? I OFTEN WONDER HOW I WOULD
> PRODUCE MUSIC AND I KEEP COMING BACK TO THE ETHEREAL SOUNDS OF THE COCTEAU
> TWINS. I'VE LISTENED TO WHAT HAS BEEN WRITTEN RECENTLY, AND I'M GLAD THAT YOU
> GUYS LIKE CHRISTMAS SONGS, BUT WHAT I THINK YOU GUYS LIKE MOST IS THE CT'S
> INTERPRETATION OF CHHRISTMAS SONGS. INTERSTINGLY, I'M WRITING THIS MESSAGE
> WHILE I'M LISTENING TO BJORK'S LATEST ALBUM HOMOGENIC AND REALIZE THAT I'M
> PRAISING CT'S EFFORTS WHILE LISTENING TO ANOTHER PERSON SING. . . .ISN'T
> THAT SOMETHING??????MY OTHER FAVORITE BAND IS LUSH AND I'M SURE THAT MANY
> OUT THERE HAVE AN OPINION ABOUT THIS BAND AND SINCE I JUST STARTED C HATTING
> WITH ALL OF YOU I'M INTERESTED IN YOUR FEELINGS ABOUT THIS BAND AND THEIR
> SOUND NEW AND OLD. DO I SOUND ANTAGONISTIC? I DON'T MEAN TO. I'M IN
> HOUSTON , TX AND INVITE ALL OF YOU TO RESPOND AND TO DROP BY LITERALLY......
> BOBBY R. MILLER JR.
>
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Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 03:51:17 +0100
Reply-To: Denis Fahmi
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From: Denis Fahmi
Subject: Bluebeard 12" Vinyl Limited Edition (Fontana) and Vinyl LP's
The shop next door still got one or two Bluebeard, Otherness : 12"
I saw also Vinyl LP's of M&K.
E-mail me if interested at dfahmi@iprolink.ch
I only need the coverage of purchase + postage or very rare stuff
Denis in WinterWonderland
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Date: Sat, 20 Dec 1997 14:00:13 +1100
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