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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 03:24:49 EST
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From: Tetsuo Boi
Subject: Re: CT video...was Re: whatever happened to?
In a message dated 12/31/97 7:13:51 AM, you wrote:
<>
that is so funny...there was a time when i had considered asking a trivia
question as to the "fourth cocteau member"....the reel-to-reel! great minds,
lotsalove
david
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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 03:33:44 EST
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From: Tetsuo Boi
Subject: Re: CT videos
In a message dated 12/31/97 7:36:19 AM, you wrote:
<>
since you're such a david lynch fan, i thought maybe you'd go for "blue"
(velvet), "frank","dune", or "eraserhead" (tounge planted firmly in cheek).
lotsaluck with the delivery
hope everything goes well
david
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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 03:45:55 EST
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From: Tetsuo Boi
Subject: Re: liz make up tips (bluebeard)
In a message dated 12/31/97 11:47:54 PM, you wrote:
>> i like her look in bluebeard too...>>
i love liz's hair in bluebeard!!!!!!! that video captures a great dealof the
essence of cocteau-dom for me....light, frolicky (sp) elation.
as far as make up...you made me a very convincing female. i can only imagine
the artistry you could create with liz's already existing beauty.
lotsalove to the group and happy new year!!!!
david
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Date: Wed, 31 Dec 1997 19:33:53 -0800
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From: Amy Conger
Subject: Re: piece of my Mind for a Burrito?
>...can I propose that we compose a List tape
>of rare and unusual Cocteau-related finds?
Please do!
>I can offer a live recording of the Simple
>Minds' "Cocteau Twins" track (from which they got their name!)
I have this (instrumental) on vinyl.
Also included should be the untitled instrumental from the
Live in London 96 CD. And Liz singing "Respect" with
Wolfgang Press!
AMy
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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 16:17:10 EST
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From: Yummycats
Subject: Re: piece of my Mind for a Burrito?
In a message dated 98-01-01 16:11:40 EST, you write:
<< Also included should be the untitled instrumental from the
Live in London 96 CD. And Liz singing "Respect" with
Wolfgang Press! >>
I have a horrible horrible song by Fuel with both Liz and Robin called
"Butterfly Knife" to add. And don't forget Primitive Painters.
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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 15:57:56 -0600
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From: Stratton Davis
Subject: Re: piece of my Mind for a Burrito?
> In a message dated 98-01-01 16:11:40 EST, you write:
>
> << Also included should be the untitled instrumental from the
> Live in London 96 CD. And Liz singing "Respect" with
> Wolfgang Press! >>
>
> I have a horrible horrible song by Fuel with both Liz and Robin called
> "Butterfly Knife" to add. And don't forget Primitive Painters.
Horrible Horrible? Yikes. I kinda like that one. Another one that I
think is really good is 'Wildfire' by Hamish(Fuel) and Robin. It can also
be found on the elusive Volume 5 compilation...along with 'Frosty' and a
collaboration between Robin and Gordon Sharp called 'MacBeth'(sp?).
Happy New Year everyone.
Stratton
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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 14:42:37 PST
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From: "Berk ~"
Subject: Re: piece of my Mind for a Burrito?
>
>> In a message dated 98-01-01 16:11:40 EST, you write:
>>
>> << Also included should be the untitled instrumental from the
>> Live in London 96 CD. And Liz singing "Respect" with
>> Wolfgang Press! >>
>>
>> I have a horrible horrible song by Fuel with both Liz and Robin
called
>> "Butterfly Knife" to add. And don't forget Primitive Painters.
>
>Horrible Horrible? Yikes. I kinda like that one. Another one that I
>think is really good is 'Wildfire' by Hamish(Fuel) and Robin. It can
also
>be found on the elusive Volume 5 compilation...along with 'Frosty' and
a
>collaboration between Robin and Gordon Sharp called 'MacBeth'(sp?).
>
And how about the Fan Club's 'Sky To Speak', and the Red Tape version of
'Pitch the Baby'?
~Berk
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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 18:39:35 -0500
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From: Cynthia Conrad and David Todd
Subject: Re: piece of my Mind for a Burrito?
Does anyone have Gathering Dust?
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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 19:56:04 EST
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From: Christo344
Subject: Re: CT videos
Iwould like to get a copy of these videos everyone's talking about. Could
someone direct me as to how I might obtain them?
Thank you,
Christopher Walker
Christo344@aol.com
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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 20:05:47 EST
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From: Christo344
Subject: Re: piece of my Mind for a Burrito?
I have a copy of "Sixteen Days--Gathering Dust" on vinyl...............
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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 20:47:14 EST
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From: Raxalah
Subject: Re: piece of my Mind for a Burrito?
In a message dated 98-01-01 18:45:12 EST, you write:
<< Does anyone have Gathering Dust? >>
yes, i have the 12 " vinyl single. and, this might or might not work for fun
-- somewhere around here i (think i still have it) the original Modern English
album with "16 Days/Gathering Dust". BTW -- anyone see Modern English on
their tour this summer -- they played Music Midtown here in Atlanta and opened
with "16 Days/Gathering Dust" -- it was great!
Rax.
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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 08:19:01 +0000
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From: Gabriel Mendoza
Subject: Re: CT videos
I'd also like to know where to get CT videos.
Gabriel Mendoza
gabrielm@teleport.com
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Date: Thu, 1 Jan 1998 21:01:05 -0800
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From: Justin John Maresh
Subject: Re: Faye Wong with a new product of Bella Union
On Thu, 25 Dec 1997, C.K. Coney wrote:
> I have not been able to find Faye's new lp anywhere in Atlanta. I had
> heard that it was on EMI which is supposed to be connected to the HMV
> stores...but the local HMV never heard of her. Where did you buy the cd?
> A store?
Dear Listees,
In all the holiday madness, I have ended up with an extra copy of Faye
Wong's new album "Wong Fei" with "Yu Lok Cheung (Amusement Park)" the song
featuring Simon and Robin written by the Twins and "Wai Leem
(Reminiscence)", the cover version of "Rilkean Heart." This is the
standard import (not the limited edition version with the 3-D motion
cover of Faye being pushed up against a chair with her hands tied by some
guy -- can anyone out there explain this cover to me?). I'll let it go
for $15 (this includes postage). I paid a bit more for it so this is
actually a deal. If anyone is interested, send me personal mail.
-- Justin
And dreaming through the twilight
That doth not rise nor set,
Haply I may remember,
And haply may forget...
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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 00:33:36 EST
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From: Yummycats
Subject: Re: piece of my Mind for a Burrito?
In a message dated 98-01-01 18:45:08 EST, you write:
<< Does anyone have Gathering Dust? >>
I do, and it's funny but you just reminded me that I have it, I had totally
forgotten! Isn't it only available on vinyl?
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Date: Fri, 2 Jan 1998 01:14:11 EST
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From: Yummycats
Subject: Non CT related
This is not Cocteau Twins related, but it is somewhat 4ad related...
I have Colourbox's "Colourbox" (CAD508CD) cd and I hate it! I found it at a
pawn shop. Does anyone else want to trade me something (anything!) for it? I
really don't care what you'd want to trade (a cd you hate, a sticker, a
carrot...) since not even used record stores around here want it and it's a
shame to let it rot in my collection if someone else wants it. I don't
understand what happened because I really like their song on Lonely Is An
Eyesore. The *exact* same thing happened with Clan of Xymox too...
:-(
Oh, speaking of Lonely, anyone who wants it but doesn't want to pay full price
for the import - Blockbuster music is selling their imports at 50% off. I
guess this applies to the Cocteau ep's as well.
I sound like a big commercial. Or anti-commercial, depending on how you look
at it.
yummycats@aol.com
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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 08:06:05 PST
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From: Miss Epoch
Subject: Re: PALS users (Twins fan at VH1)
jan 20... thats quite a day
>
>I suppose I could find out. I won't be going back to VH1 until Jan
>20. Is there anyone out there that actually works for VH1 as I
>should like to find someone who doesn't worship mariah carey or bow
>to sherly crow.
>
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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 12:21:05 -0800
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From: Amy Conger
Subject: Re: piece of my Mind for a Burrito?
>And how about the Fan Club's 'Sky To Speak', and the Red Tape version of
>'Pitch the Baby'?
>~Berk
What's the Red Tape version? The remix a la the last tour?
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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 13:31:24 -0800
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From: Eileen F Paredes
Subject: Re: COCTEAU-L Digest - 30 Dec 1997 to 31 Dec 1997
Okay...
First, the video bit...could someone kindly email me (personally) and
give me a list of vids that CT plans to put out? I think Tishbite and
whatever came out after that are the only ones I haven't seen
(unless CT pulled a fast one on me :)
Second, the wierd compilation idea (Hey there, Jef!) sounds like fun. I
guess I would vote for WongFaye's version of Touch Upon Touch.
btw, I have no clue where Ponyboy went...I miss him...can't go back to
Davis anymore :(
Third, as if the world needed it, I've put up a drop dead,
text-only-so-far, "my favorites" CT fan site on the i-net. Please
critique me. It's at
www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Underground/5194/index.html
Believe me, it's a veeeeery simple website. I need feedback on its
content. (Sorry, my email program can't make nifty hyperlinks whenever I
type in a URL)
thanks!
eileen
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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 19:56:17 -0500
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From: Cynthia Conrad and David Todd
Subject: Re: COCTEAU-L Digest - 30 Dec 1997 to 31 Dec
On Saturday, January 03, 1998 5:07 PM,
Eileen F Paredes
wrote:
>First, the video bit...could someone kindly email me (personally) and
>give me a list of vids that CT plans to put out? I think Tishbite and
>whatever came out after that are the only ones I haven't seen
The last I heard about a video release was that it was in the very
preliminary planning stages . . . has more concrete info emerged
regarding this project?
--Cynthia
dirigibl@javanet.com
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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 19:57:56 EST
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From: GARLANDS22
Subject: GOT MILK???........ANND KISSES?
HI GUYS&GALS
I am not the big collector of the promo cd's (if i seen them i would grab it)
but flipping thru a magazine called record collector the are alot of little
treasures. one ad had a cd from the twins called milk and kisses 18 track
promo cd does any one know what this contains?
another thing for christmas i got the tishbite single is this a rare cd? it
was made in france...
oh well......on the other hand i want to give a big i am sorry for all the
havoc i caused
mmmmmmmmender......
sorry and good luck with the new child
enjoy the ear candy kids
Andre
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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 22:28:47 -0500
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From: Cynthia Conrad and David Todd
Subject: Re: where to get Faye Wong
On Thu, 25 Dec 1997, C.K. Coney wrote:
> I have not been able to find Faye's new lp anywhere in Atlanta. I had
> heard that it was on EMI which is supposed to be connected to the HMV
> stores...but the local HMV never heard of her. Where did you buy the cd?
> A store?
I just ordered all three Faye Wong CDs that include the covers of "Rilkean
Heart,"
"Know Who You Are At Every Age," "Bluebeard" and the CT-written "Tranquil
Eye," "Touch Upon Touch" and "Amusement Park" (Faye Wong, Random
Thinking, and Impatience) at:
http://www.hkpop.com/
which is actually a Canadian outfit and seems to be legit to order from
(they have encoding for credit card orders, for one thing); I'm always a bit
leery of buying over the Net, but I feel OK about them . . .
--Cynthia
dirigibl@javanet.com
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Date: Sat, 3 Jan 1998 21:46:18 -0800
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From: Justin John Maresh
Subject: Re: Faye Wong CD
Woah... I didn't acually realize how many people are on this list!!! (I
also didn't realize Chinese imports were so hard to come by) Well I only
have one CD to sell so I've decided to award it to the first person who
responded and that would be Dax! Congratulations. As for people who
can't hop a bus to the nearest Chinese music store, there is always mail
order. The company Hong Kong Pop Network at http://www.hkpop.com is a
well-stocked mail-order source that has a good reputation (I have friends
who order from them without complaint).
Happy hunting!
-- Justin
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 14:04:09 +0100
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From: Klaus
Subject: Re: Germany, Unemployment - a few facts
Hallo Listies,
at first:
Ich wuensche allen ein gesundes neues Jahr 1998!
Happy New Year 1998!
At second:
> ><< Yes. DE stands for Deutschland.>>
> >
> ><< But you can be lucky here, if you have a job. 15 percent of the
> >workers are
> > without a job. >>
> >
> >unemployement is that high over there? why haven't i seen that on
> >CNN????
Sorry for the late answer, but i was in vacations in the Erzgebirge (near
Dresden).
I live in Berlin and yes, 15 percent are out of work here... In Berlin and of
cause all the other parts of Germany, that was before the 3th october 1990
the GDR (many factorys closed)... (a few areas with 50 percent unemployed
people!)
In South-Germany (there are all the big factories and companies) are only 6
percent without a job...
So the political situation here is really very complicated.
Maybe is that not interesting enough for the CNN...
> >in any case, hey, congratulations on having a job.
Thanx. I have my actually job since 1994 ...
> bummer that you
> >gotta work
> >nine hours a day, but i pretty much work those hours too!
So it is in Germany. Who has work, there must work many many hours and all the
other people are on the streets... But unfortunately is the money the same
(the extra hours are not for extra money)...
> What I want to know is: if unemployment is so high in Germany, how come I
> run into so many Germans on extended travels in remote (for Germans)
> places? Are there many independently wealthy folk there? Do Germans still
> get tons of vacation time per year? (Perhaps due to lack of work there?)
I have at my job 30 holidays in a year.
But i am not rich. The wages in the part of Germany, that was to 1990 the GDR,
are lower than in the other areas of Germany. For example, my wages at time in a
month (after all the (high) taxes) are around 1800 DM. That are around 1000 US$.
But if i work in Bayern (Bavaria) or other southern parts of Germany, then are
my wages the double or more! But all the prices in the shops are the same...
The second fact is: too have children in Germany is very expensive, Germany is
not friendly for children. And i have two daughters..
(more from me and my family - with pictures - at:
http://home.t-online.de/home/eichfeld )
Or contact me privatly at: eichfeld@t-online.de
I think, the Germany that travels so far away are no unemployers. Ask they, from
where they come. I think, the most are from West- and South-Germany. There
living the rich people. I have a job and also unfortunately not the money for
travelling in the world. Only the vacationdays are enough.
But enough with all that, this is a CT-List...
Klaus
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 11:36:53 EST
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From: Naturesake
Subject: Re: GOT MILK???........ANND KISSES?
MILK and KISSES is an AWESOME CD!
You will enjoy it!
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 12:09:03 -0500
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From: Cynthia Conrad and David Todd
Subject: Re: where to get Faye Wong part 2!
Comments: To: Les/Richard
On Sunday, January 04, 1998 7:22 AM, Les wrote to me:
> I want to thank you for steering me in the direction of the Hong Kong
>Pop site. But, at the risk of sounding like a complete and utter idiot,
>which of all those CD's are the 3 with the Cocteau Twins connections?
I forgot that while the site is in English, the HKPop Faye Wong titles
are all in Chinese!
First, visit this site for an excellent discography (in English!) with
pictures of the album covers:
http://www.scar.utoronto.ca/~94cheunq/fayedisc.html#20
be sure to click on the thumbnails so that you get the "big pictures"!
THEN, go check out http://www.hkpop.com and you'll be better
prepared to make your selections.
At the discography site, look for the following albums and song
titles:
Random Thinking: track 1: Random Thinking (cover of Bluebeard)
track 5: Know Oneself And Each Other (cover
of
Know Who You Are At Every
Age)
Impatience: track 4: Fracture (version of Touch Upon Touch)
track 8: Repressing Happiness (version of Tranquil
Eye)
Faye Wong: track 4: Amusement Park (written by CT)
track 8: Reminicience (cover of Rilkean Heart)
*note that the middle album pic (the Siouxsie
pose)
is the one to look for once you get to HKPop!
If you're a real completist, you may also be interested in the following:
Faye Wong Live In Concert: Disc 2, Track 1: Know Oneself And
Each Other (live)
Disc 2, Track 2: Random
Thinking
(live)
One Person, Two Roles: Track 4: Know Oneself And Each Other
(Europe
Mix)
Many of the songs at the discography site are also sampled, in part
(or in full!), so that you can "try before you buy." (I think the only one
that cheung doesn't have a sample of is Know Oneself And Each
Other). While you're there, check out the English translations of the
lyrics for these songs! They're a hoot! Like the titles, they have little
or nothing to do with the English versions, but you'll be amazed to
hear how much Faye's versions resembles the CT's versions!
BTW, Faye Wong also covers Tori Amos, The Sundays, The Police,
and The Cranberries, among numerous others, on her albums.
Happy Hunting!
Cynthia
dirigibl@javanet.com
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 11:10:13 -0800
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From: Amy Conger
Subject: Re: COCTEAU-L Digest - 30 Dec 1997 to 31 Dec 1997
>www.geocities.com/SunsetStrip/Underground/5194/index.html
>
>Believe me, it's a veeeeery simple website. I need feedback on its
>content. (Sorry, my email program can't make nifty hyperlinks whenever I
>type in a URL)
Just put an http:// in front of it, and our email programs will take care
of the rest!
AMy
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 21:16:57 -0500
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From: "leesa (mender)"
Subject: did you all forget?
today is robin guthrie's birthday!! (jan 4th, 1962)
-------------------------------------------------------
~ mender ~
leesa beales
the cocteau cafe:
http://www.cocteautwins.org/~leesa/cocteautwins/cHTML/
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 22:12:58 EST
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From: GARLANDS22
Subject: Re: did you all forget?
happy birth day to Robin MY number 1 man!
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 12:13:52 +0000
Reply-To: contact@mgb.tv.co.uk
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Comments: Authenticated sender is
From: contact@MGB.TV.CO.UK
Organization: MGB Facilities Ltd
Subject: Re: Happy Holidays and a plea
dear rey
if you need to get hold of any more cd's give me a shout what you
want and i'll try to help
i'm in england so the postage may be a little more though
mickey
drink guinness
& happy new year
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 06:39:15 -0600
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From: Eric Dickerson
Subject: Re: did you all forget?
Happy Belated Birthday Robin. Best wishes to you. You're the best!!!!
GARLANDS22 wrote:
> happy birth day to Robin MY number 1 man!
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 09:00:47 -0500
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From: "leesa (mender)"
Subject: did they arrive?
listies: forgive me for this but this message is for.....
Greg Walker
Brian Sandford
Rene Garcia
Siuberto Socarras
Tad Rollow
i don't have your individual email addresses on me and i was wondering
whether or not you have all received your copies of snow yet?
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~leesa beales~
{{{{mmmmender}}}}
~~~The Cocteau Cafe~~~
http://www.cocteautwins.org/~leesa/cocteautwins/cHTML/
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 12:30:06 PST
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From: "Berk ~"
Subject: Re: GOT (A Taste of)MILK??..AND KISSES?
one ad had a cd from the twins called milk and kisses 18 track
>promo cd does any one know what this contains?
>another thing for christmas i got the tishbite single is this a rare
cd? it
>was made in france...
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Andre, this 18 track M&K promo is a Canada only release called "(A Taste
of) Milk & Kisses". All tracks are regular album cuts, from Garlands to
M&K. I've never heard of a French Tishbite, I was under the impression
that both Tish 1 & 2 were UK releases. Maybe you do have something rare
there.
~Berk
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:48:22 -0500
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From: "leesa (mender)"
Subject: Re: GOT (A Taste of)MILK??..AND KISSES?
>one ad had a cd from the twins called milk and kisses 18 track
>promo cd does any one know what this contains?
"a taste of milk and kisses" track listing:
1) Garlands
2) Sugar Hiccup
3) Aikea-Guinea
4) Lorelei
5) Donimo
6) Feet-Like Fins
7) Carolyn's Fingers
8) A Kissed Out Red Floatboat
9) Iceblink Luck
10)Heaven or Las Vegas
11)Wolf in the Breast
12)Bluebeard
13)Evangeline
14)Pink Orange Red (Twinlights Version)
15)Rilean Heart=20
16)Treasure Hiding
17)Tishbite
18)Seekers Who are Lovers
this disc is actually more rare than snow, people just haven't realized it
yet!!
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~leesa beales~
{{{{mmmmender}}}}
~~~The Cocteau Cafe~~~
http://www.cocteautwins.org/~leesa/cocteautwins/cHTML/
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 12:34:48 -0700
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From: Alan Reid
Subject: Re: CT video...was Re: whatever happened to?
Is the cocteau video compilation available for purchase. If so could
someone let me know how or where to get a copy.
Thanks!
Alan
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:48:36 EST
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From: "C.K. Coney"
Subject: Re: liz make up tips
On Thu, 1 Jan 1998 02:47:03 EST Fairieglo writes:
>aah...yes, i have a makeup fetish. my fantasy is to do the faces of
>elizabeth and isabella rossellini. not that i make them any more
>beautiful,
>but its like when you were a kid, and you got a coloring book you
>immediately
>had to color in the best picture in the book. does this make sense to
>anyone
>but me?
>sigh.
>i love make up
>i love liz's eyes.....
>her lips are nice too....
>sigh sigh sigh sigh
Hey, Melanie, I've got the same kind of obsession (no perfume pun
intended) for X-Files' Gillian Anderson...luckily I share the same kooky
interest with a bunch of e-pals in our Gillian Anderson Estrogen Brigade
(GAEB). Yep, the women are *out* there!
And as for Liz, all I gotta say is Those Eyes, That Mouth (and the
beautiful sounds that come out of it!)...truly we have been blessed!
Peace 'n luv,
Carol
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:48:35 EST
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From: "C.K. Coney"
Subject: Re: weddings, births, etc.
Comments: To: mondacello@bond.net
On Wed, 31 Dec 1997 17:42:32 -0500 mondacello
writes:
>And now the funny part ... my kids LOVE the Dead Kennedys (and the
>Pistols, Exploited,Misfits etc.) The oldest thinks Jello and Johnny
>are
>gods... life is strange
I don't think it's so odd that your kids have rather ecclectic tastes...I
used to be *very* into hardcore, bands like the DK's, MDC, too many to
mention...even co-produced a fanzine on the hardcore scene of the
early/mid-80's...at the same time I discovered/fell in love with CT &
started buying all their stuff, along with alot of other 4AD, like DCD.
These days I still love CT but I'm no longer enamoured with
hardcore...tho' I still respect it (especially when it has
educational/political value).
Carol
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 15:48:35 EST
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From: "C.K. Coney"
Subject: Re: top 11 album lists
Comments: To: Raxalah@aol.com
Comments: cc: rraymer@ix.netcom.com
On Wed, 31 Dec 1997 17:26:56 EST Raxalah writes:
>hey Carol:
>
>i got off my duff and started a "Top 11 Album" thread on Seekers, just
>for
>you. i EXPECT to see your list as soon as you can get to it.....since
>this
>was your idea anyway....
Geez...I hardly *ever* visit Seekers, so I didn't even think that would
be a place to look for "top ten" lists.
Anyway, I've been procrastinating cause I've *still* not been able to
purchase 3 cds that might make my top ten, those being the new Faye Wong
on EMI, the Billy MacKenzie posthumous cd "Beyond the Sun" (which Simon
produced), and Velour 100's "Of Color Bright" (this band is "kin" to His
Name Is Alive, one of my fave bands.)
Having said that, I can list a top ten for '97 that is subject to change
(and not necessarily in order, except for the first 2)...
Seely - Seconds
Lida Husik - Fly Stereophonic
Laika - Sounds of the Satellites
The Changelings - Terra Firma
Delerium - Karma
Hal w/Gillian Anderson - Extremis (4 trak single)
Simon Raymonde - Blame Someone Else
Spearhead - Chocolate Supa Highway
Belle & Sebastian - If You're Feeling Sinister
Jenifer Smith -Code Mesa
(obviously this list ain't very "this-listy"!)
Happy New Year, ya'll!
Carol
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From: "leesa (mender)"
Subject: Re: CT video...was Re: whatever happened to?
>Is the cocteau video compilation available for purchase. If so could
>someone let me know how or where to get a copy.
>Thanks!
>Alan
alan....contact stratton to place an order of the "unofficial video
compilation" at stratton@ballistic.com.
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 13:49:21 PST
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From: "Berk ~"
Subject: Cynthia; Amy C.
Cynthia~
Thanks a bunch for the site info on Faye Wong! I searched all over the
net and couldn't find this kind of info.
Amy~
The Red Tape version of "Pitch the Baby" is an 'alternate version'.
It's a little more *beat heavy*, and maybe just a little peppy-er than
the standard version.
~Berk
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 22:37:34 GMT
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From: Paul Spirito
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On Mon, 5 Jan 1998 12:30:06 PST, Berk ~ wrote:
>I've never heard of a French Tishbite, I was under the impression
>that both Tish 1 & 2 were UK releases. Maybe you do have something rare
>there.
My "Tishbite"s say "Made in France by PMDC" -- but thy're just the =
ordinary
"Tishbite"s, pressed in France.
Paul
http://www.nihidyll.com/gaollery/
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 17:15:37 EST
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From: Yummycats
In a message dated 98-01-05 15:30:33 EST, you write:
>> I've never heard of a French Tishbite, I was under the impression
that both Tish 1 & 2 were UK releases. >>
Both my blue and yellow Tishbite singles say they were made in France.
They're in a digipack. I looked on the Violaine singles and they don't even
say where they were made. But pretty much all of my Cocteau imports come from
the UK, yet say they were made in france. Infact - explain this one to me -
on one part of the package of The Moon and the Melodies, it says it's made in
the UK. On another area (the actual CD itself) says it was made in france.
On my copy of Tiny Dynamine/Echoes in a Shallow Bay, it does the same thing,
only the countries are the UK and Germany. My guess is that they are
manufactured in one country and marketed in another.
I really hate those cardboard digipacks, though. And the UK slimline cases.
The cardboard bends and wears down, and the slimline cases crack! They must
be much cheaper to manufacture than the sturdier jewelcases, otherwise why
would someone put their music in such crappy packaging? I like things to
LAST!
yummycats@aol.com
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 18:04:27 -0500
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From: mondacello
Subject: Re: weddings, births, etc.
I think you misunderstood when I said life is strange... I didn't mean
it's odd that they can enjoy CT and the DK etc. (they're also into
classical music), I meant it's strange how life repeats itself. What I
was into 15-20 years ago, for the most part, they are becoming obsessed
with now.
Is it heredity or brainwashing?
~MaRk~
C.K. Coney wrote:
>
>
> I don't think it's so odd that your kids have rather ecclectic tastes...I
> used to be *very* into hardcore, bands like the DK's, MDC, too many to
> mention...even co-produced a fanzine on the hardcore scene of the
> early/mid-80's...at the same time I discovered/fell in love with CT &
> started buying all their stuff, along with alot of other 4AD, like DCD.
> These days I still love CT but I'm no longer enamoured with
> hardcore...tho' I still respect it (especially when it has
> educational/political value).
>
> Carol
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From: DaxDax
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Subject: Re: GOT (A Taste of)MILK??..AND KISSES?
In a message dated 1/5/98 11:15:30 PM, you wrote:
>>I really hate those cardboard digipacks, though. And the UK slimline cases.
The cardboard bends and wears down, and the slimline cases crack! They must
be much cheaper to manufacture than the sturdier jewelcases, otherwise why
would someone put their music in such crappy packaging? I like things to
LAST!>>
They aren't really cheaper, but they are more "enviro-friendly" because they
use less plastic
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Subject: Re: GOT (A Taste of)MILK??..AND KISSES?
In a message dated 1/5/98 11:15:30 PM, you wrote:
>>I really hate those cardboard digipacks, though. And the UK slimline cases.
The cardboard bends and wears down, and the slimline cases crack! They must
be much cheaper to manufacture than the sturdier jewelcases, otherwise why
would someone put their music in such crappy packaging? I like things to
LAST!>>
oops, got cut off on the last message. As I was saying, the digipacks are
more environmentally correct, plus some pople prefer them because the artwork
is self-contained. Jewel Cases are not really sturdy either, as they crack
and the hinges break when dropped, etc. But I agree, I hate them too, in
fact, I hate them both!
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From: Cynthia Conrad and David Todd
Subject: Re: GOT (A Taste of)MILK??..AND KISSES?
On Monday, January 05, 1998 7:13 PM,
DaxDax wrote:
>In a message dated 1/5/98 11:15:30 PM, wrote:
>
>>>I really hate those cardboard digipacks, though. And the UK slimline
cases.
>The cardboard bends and wears down, and the slimline cases crack! They
must
>be much cheaper to manufacture than the sturdier jewelcases, otherwise why
>would someone put their music in such crappy packaging? I like things to
>LAST!
>the digipacks are
>more environmentally correct, plus some pople prefer them because the
artwork
>is self-contained. Jewel Cases are not really sturdy either, as they crack
>and the hinges break when dropped, etc. But I agree, I hate them too, in
>fact, I hate them both!
Yes, I understand about that environmental stuff, but digipacks also lack CD
booklets,
which to me are very important. I get so dissapointed when I open a fresh
new CD
and there's little or no information, pictures, lyrics, artwork,
whathaveyou. Also (and
is this my imagination) some of my digipak imports have a slightly different
size
than my U.S. CDs. Not enough to notice just looking at them, but it sure
makes a
difference when I go to put them into my CD holder! OTOH, I actually don't
mind
the slimcase for singles, as long as a band puts out an even number of
different
singles so that I can neatly fit 2 CD slimline singles in one CD holder
slot!
--Cynthia
dirigibl@javanet.com
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 17:19:07 -0800
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From: Joseph Schlottman
Subject: Re: Hello Gentle List-Members
Greggie,
Welcome to the list. Perhaps you would be willing to discourse a little
on the times you've seen the Cocteau Twins perform live, for those
unfortunate souls like myself who have never seen them? We would like to
hear your impressions comparatively of the three separate times you saw
them. Which tours? Which was your favorite? I suspect that they are
basically a "studio band" (like The Cure) and that it might be difficult
to reproduce some of their rich sonic tapestries live on stage, but
that's only guesswork as I haven't seen them yet. Anything you'd like
to say I'd be interested to hear. Much obliged, Joseph Anthony.
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From: Steve Swenser
Subject: PACKAGING
>I get so dissapointed when I open a fresh
>new CD
>and there's little or no information, pictures, lyrics, artwork,
>whathaveyou.
I wonder how we'd react if the next CT CD release contained written lyrics?
Steve Swenser
Department of Materials Engineering
Monash University
Clayton, Victoria, Australia, 3168
PH: IDD+61-3-9905-9608
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 17:27:26 -0800
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From: Joseph Schlottman
Subject: Re: hidden treasures
YES.
I'm not sure about cico buff, I've got to listen again . . . but whales
tails has always made me dizzy, Liz's "chorus" that gets faster and
faster and dissolves like sugar into the air. And I wear your ring is an
AMAZING song. I would say it's my favorite from HOLV but I like almost
every song on HOLV so much I can't say that.
On Mon, 22 Dec 1997, Suedeluvr wrote:
> hello there,
> i just wanted to say that there are a few cocteau twins tracks that
> really stand out to me as being especially incredible, but hardly anyone seems
> to notice them at all it seems. particularly, the pink orange red version
> from the twinlights ep, cico buff from blue bell knoll, whales tales from
> victorialand, i wear your ring from HOLV and especially pandora from
> treasure....... does any one else think these songs are among the band's
> finest moments?
>
> *keep on*
> -kyle
>
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From: Exnihilo01
i just started listening to the cocteau twins about two years ago and i
instantly feel in love with them. Blue Bell Knoll is one of my favorite
albums. the loop in cico bluff is amazing. they are deffinitely god-like.
did you ever notice that when their at their best the whole atmosphere of the
room just swirls around, and at other times their music just kind of seeps out
of your speakers, like inscense. i think one of the best descriptions i've
ever read about them was that they are like musical wallpaper. is it true
they did a concert on line last year? if it is true, is it still available to
view? if any one knows, please let me know.
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 17:56:50 -0800
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From: Joseph Schlottman
Subject: Re: hidden treasures
My favorite Twins tracks:
Athol-Brose - it's like practicing scales! each line higher and higher.
Carolyn's Fingers - I've never heard a vocal like this before. It's
otherworldly and spine-tingling. Somewhat similar to Aikea-Guinea but
more complex, shrill, intricate, incredibly controlled and focused, like
fairy music, as I said before
The Itchy Glowbo Blow - The ending of this song is astoundingly beautiful
- the last minute or thirty seconds, the instrumental part. It's like
Liz pushes the music up and up until it just explodes and she doesn't
even sing any more, just lets the music carry everything away
Frou frou foxes in midsummer fires - I like the way this song is in three
parts, like a triptych. I'm doing an independent contract this quarter
and part of my contract is to paint Cocteau Twins songs, and I'm going to
paint this one, in three parts. One of my very favorites. It's as
uplifting as anything I've ever heard or seen. I do think Pur and
Treasure Hiding both kind of follow the quiet-loud format of this song,
but I don't think the Twins can really be accused of "ripping off"
themselves!
Cherry coloured funk - this song played extremely loud is better than
anything else, ever
Fifty-fifty Clown - My friend calls this her "flying song." Dreamlike
and beautiful beyond words. I overlooked it at first, now I'm in love
with it. Especially the line Liz sings that sounds like "oceans are in
the shape emotions are"
I Wear Your Ring - Fun as hell to sing along with, as someone else
mentioned, and one of Liz's greatest self-harmonizing moments
Ivo - What can I say? Beauteous. The Twins are unequalled at creating
albums with a consistent mood and a first track to lead you in
and a last track to usher you out with the music still running in your
mind after it fades away
Amelia - very simple and very haunting
In Our Angelhood - I like the fast pace. Sounds like Liz sings "we turn
to angel fish / in our angelhood / now our heart's sunnyish / like he
said it would" but who knows?
When Mama Was Moth - Like a spell or incantation, and a perfect
album-opener. One of my favorite song titles too
Musette and Drums - Incredible guitar outro, everything about this song
is thunder and lightning, stormlike, overpowering and irresistible
Sighs Smell of Farewell - prime example of the way they build to an
orgasmic finale
Squeeze-Wax - another orgasmic finale song
Summerhead - gorgeous melody, awesome jarring guitar backdrop
The Spangle Maker - sort of dark. Another brilliant example of the Twins
method of saving the best for last and blowing your mind at the end of
the song. Unlike so much other music where you're bored by the end.
They always have a new trick to pull out of their hat. I think this is
one of Liz's greatest moments, and I absolutely love the guitar feedback
- reminds me of sounds whales make and makes me think of being deep deep in
the ocean where there's hardly any light
Hitherto - what can I say? nice
Rococo - Awesome instrumental piece
Know Who You Are At Every Age - kind of melancholy, wistful, sorrowful,
glistening and gorgeous, the way things look after a heavy rain
I could go on, but I'll spare you. The conclusion I've come to from
trying to make this list is that it's real hard for me to pinpoint my
favorite Twins songs. 80% of them are really really good.
Joseph Anthony
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 17:57:56 -0800
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From: Joseph Schlottman
Subject: Re: hidden treasures
On Tue, 23 Dec 1997, Raxalah wrote:
> In a message dated 97-12-22 19:03:48 EST, you write:
>
> << does any one else think these songs are among the band's finest moments?
> >>
>
> i would have to agree with you. i personally think that the _Twinlights_
> version of "PinkOrangeRed" is the most beautiful thing ever recorded! my
> other favorite Twins tunes: "Frou Frou Foxes" and that last track on
> _The_Moon_and_the_Melodies_, i forget the title! (please note that this list
> is susceptible to change at any moment!)
>
> Rax.
The last track on M&M is "ooze out and away onehow."
Now that's got to be the best song title I've ever heard.
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 18:03:28 -0800
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From: Amy Conger
Subject: Re: GOT (A Taste of)MILK??..AND KISSES?
>They aren't really cheaper, but they are more "enviro-friendly" because they
>use less plastic
Well... it's not really more "enviro-friendly" (paper, plastic, glue),
except that they use less packing.
My gripes with the digpak format are that the cds tend to fall out,
scratching the cd and that the "spider" that holds them in is not
replaceable if it falls apart.
Amy
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 21:19:05 -0500
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From: Cynthia Conrad and David Todd
Subject: Re: PACKAGING
On Monday, January 05, 1998 8:20 PM,
Steve Swenser
wrote:
>I wonder how we'd react if the next CT CD release contained written lyrics?
Wow, I,personally, would really *enjoy* that. The thing that is some-
times difficult to me about listening to the 'Twins is that I want to sing
along--but I have no idea what the words really are. I mean, I've read
the lyrics sites for CT music and while some lyrics seem right on the
target, still others make me go "huh? there's too many syllables here
or something . . . "
BTW, has anyone written a thread trying to decipher the lyrics woven
into the artwork for "M&K"?
--Cynthia
dirigibl@javanet.com
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 18:33:01 -0800
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From: Joseph Schlottman
Subject: Fave song titles
How bout favorite song titles? Mine are
1)Ooze out and away, onehow
2)Frou-frou foxes in midsummer fires
3)Perhaps some other aeon
4)Spooning good singing gum
5)A kissed out red floatboat
6)It's all but an ark lark
7)Iceblink luck
8)Wolf in the breast
9)Glass candle grenades
10)Pitch the baby
11)When mama was moth
12)How to bring a blush to the snow
13)Flock of soul
14)Seekers who are lovers
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 21:11:20 EST
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From: TREY MILL
Subject: Re: just thought i'd introduce myself
Hi exnihilo 01. I read your note and agree that Blue Bell Knoll is a superb
album. I don't know if they are god-like but they play music that the gods
would listen to............what else? Oh, I've listened to them a while and
luckily I joined this very interesting group of people who exchange thoughts,
cd's, videos that involve and revolve around the twins. I actually look
forward to reading everyone's thoughts daily. It would be something to put a
face to all the messages. I love the CTs but I confess I listen to other
bands as well. I'm interested in people out there who listen to bands like
the Smiths, or Lush......watch shows obsessively like Seinfeld or the X-
Files.....or can't wait to see the 49ers/greenbay nfc playoff games. I even
watch trash like Melrose Place. Does this make me a lesser person???????
Anyway, I like your thoughts with wall paper and all. I think their album
cover look like something out pf a Helen Frankenthaler
retrospective............
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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 13:27:20 +1100
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From: Steve Swenser
Subject: CCF: My Anthem
>Cherry coloured funk - this song played extremely loud is better than
>anything else, ever
Yes Joseph! CCF is my favourite song ever! It calms me when I'm angry, lifts
me when I am sad and makes me all warm and gooey inside. Perhaps I'm getting
a little carried away?
Steve Swenser
Department of Materials Engineering
Monash University
Clayton, Victoria, Australia, 3168
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Date: Sun, 4 Jan 1998 21:28:13 -0500
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From: Jorge Elguera
Subject: Need Fire in Judge Dredd?
I rented 'Judge Dredd' a few days ago hoping to hear CT's song 'Need
Fire' in it, but I was dissapointed when I realised that it was not
there, but present only in the credits. The only song I heard was that
of The Cure at the end of the film.
Could somebody be king enough to tell where the hell in the film does
the song play? thanks. jorge.
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 22:05:07 EST
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From: Exnihilo01
Subject: reply to treymill and any one else out there
hey treymill. i really dig your comment about how it is not so much god like
but music to be listened to by the gods. its like music for cathedrals. i
like the smiths, sure they're hard to argue with. i am also into a lot of
indie stuff - especially sebadoh and palace. i'm not a big fan of sitcom tv,
i'd rather read a book or listen to music to be honest with you. my main
thing is writing and taking up the guitar. although writing probably puts me
down more than anything else. i just got on the internet for the first time
yesterday and this cocteau twin group caught my eye immediately. thats why
i'm here. i like the conversations already. keep up and be well.
vaya con dios,
tim
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 21:49:34 EST
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From: Exnihilo01
Subject: lyrics
i think it would totally take away from the mystique of the band if the lyrics
were put in the liner notes. most of what she is singing is only emotions any
way, and some syllabic gibberish mixed with a little gaelic. well that was
before she actually started to pronunciate in more recent albums. supposedly,
and tell me if i've been misinformed, she was abused by a relative when she
was young, and these songs for her are a sort of emotional exorcism. she is
moaning in pain and laughing in sorrow. that is all part of their beauty. so
if lyric sheets were included for the songs where there actually are lyrics,
it would deffinitely lose something. they are a band full of many hidden
secrets and i think it is best if they remain that way.
besides cico bluff, some of my other favorite songs are frou frou foxes,
pandora, for phoebe still a baby, and sigh's smell of farewell.
tim
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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 14:37:04 +1100
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From: Hugh Leesan
Subject: NONCT: CD RECORDER service for FREE!!!
Heya people!
I've just recently got myself a Yamaha CD recorder, and as a
service to fellow CT fans on the Cocteau Twins mailing, I'll be
happy to burn you a CUSTOMISED compilation CD of your favourite
CT tracks and/or tracks of other bands (but only if I like them).
The CDs are 74 minutes long and you're free to put in as many tracks
as you want within that time limit. If I don't have the CD with the track
you want, you'll have to lend me a copy which I'll send back along with
your compilation CD.
I'm not asking for any money for the actual burning, but you'll have to
pay for the blank CD ($4) and money for postage. Fair enough?
If you're interested, reply back by email.
-Hugh Leesan
hugh@innocent.com
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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 01:24:55 EST
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From: Fairieglo
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Subject: Re: top 11 album lists
In a message dated 1/5/98 12:56:42 PM, you wrote:
<>
these are your top albums and not ONE cocteau twins?! hmmm...
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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 00:49:10 -0600
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From: "Michael A. Carrasco"
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Subject: Re: reply to treymill and any one else out there
Pleased to meetcha, Trey Mill( three thousand?) and ExnihiloO1(from nothing?).
I guess we can agree on the CTs and the Smiths. Will steer clear of the
god-music thing. Oh yeah, also like Lush, X Files and Frankenthaler. Hate the
Niners, Green Bay's alright. Favorite CT release is HOLV, crushed is my current
fave single. Cashed in my bookstore gift certificate for: "Rauschenberg/art and
life". Happy New Year to all y'all....mac
--
Omaha, NE, USA
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 22:47:46 -0800
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From: Justin John Maresh
Subject: Re: GOT (A Taste of)MILK??..AND KISSES?
> oops, got cut off on the last message. As I was saying, the digipacks are
> more environmentally correct, plus some pople prefer them because the artwork
> is self-contained. Jewel Cases are not really sturdy either, as they crack
> and the hinges break when dropped, etc. But I agree, I hate them too, in
> fact, I hate them both!
This is really funny... just yesterday I was flipping through my records
and it hit me: why the hell don't record companies package CDs this way?
1. It's environmentally friendly to put the CD in a cardboard sleeve.
2. You can still include a booklet (and the booklet is less likely to get
trashed by the plastic flanges of the jewel box case).
3. It has no spider-things to break
4. It's slimmer, taking up less space in the store and at home.
5. It would probably weigh a little less (to save shipping costs).
6. And you can always put the case in a plastic sleeve if you want to
protect it (this works fine for all my records).
Whoever thought of these goofy, fragile plastic cases anyhow when records
had already set the precident? hmmm...
-- J
"I find television very educating. Every time somebody turns on the set, I
go into the other room and read a book."
-- Groucho Marx, 1890-1977
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 22:48:16 -0800
Reply-To: Justin John Maresh
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From: Justin John Maresh
Subject: Re: NONCT: CD RECORDER service for FREE!!!
Comments: To: Hugh Leesan
Hey... wait a minute.
Perhaps you could spin-together a comp of out-of-print/rare stuff (like
B-sides, "Snow", etc) for all of us who are still on the quest...
(Then again, perhaps this idea will prove too popular and you will rue the
day you told us about your CD Burner). =^)
Just a thought...
-- Justin
On Tue, 6 Jan 1998, Hugh Leesan wrote:
> Heya people!
>
> I've just recently got myself a Yamaha CD recorder, and as a
> service to fellow CT fans on the Cocteau Twins mailing, I'll be
> happy to burn you a CUSTOMISED compilation CD of your favourite
> CT tracks and/or tracks of other bands (but only if I like them).
>
> The CDs are 74 minutes long and you're free to put in as many tracks
> as you want within that time limit. If I don't have the CD with the track
> you want, you'll have to lend me a copy which I'll send back along with
> your compilation CD.
>
> I'm not asking for any money for the actual burning, but you'll have to
> pay for the blank CD ($4) and money for postage. Fair enough?
>
> If you're interested, reply back by email.
>
> -Hugh Leesan
> hugh@innocent.com
>
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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 02:15:18 EST
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From: Yummycats
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Subject: Re: GOT (A Taste of)MILK??..AND KISSES? How about good packaging?
In a message dated 98-01-06 01:52:25 EST, you write:
<< This is really funny... just yesterday I was flipping through my records
and it hit me: why the hell don't record companies package CDs this way?
1. It's environmentally friendly to put the CD in a cardboard sleeve.
2. You can still include a booklet (and the booklet is less likely to get
trashed by the plastic flanges of the jewel box case).
3. It has no spider-things to break
4. It's slimmer, taking up less space in the store and at home.
5. It would probably weigh a little less (to save shipping costs).
6. And you can always put the case in a plastic sleeve if you want to
protect it (this works fine for all my records).
>>
Many Cd's come this way and it's the worst way ever! It's usually promo's,
I've noticed. I just got Lisa Gerrard's promo for Duality in one of those
slipcases, Bjork's "Best Mixes" is in a slipcase like that. Many singles come
that way - I've even seen Tishbite (with only one b-side) that way. All I can
say is horrible horrible horrible! They scratch too easily this way. And
talk about fingerprints!
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Date: Mon, 5 Jan 1998 23:36:45 +0000
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From: m
Subject: non ct Re: Hello Gentle List-Members
Joseph Schlottman wrote:
> Greggie,
>
> Welcome to the list. Perhaps you would be willing to discourse a little
> on the times you've seen the Cocteau Twins perform live, for those
> unfortunate souls like myself who have never seen them? We would like to
> hear your impressions comparatively of the three separate times you saw
> them. Which tours? Which was your favorite? I suspect that they are
> basically a "studio band" (like The Cure) and that it might be difficult
> to reproduce some of their rich sonic tapestries live on stage, but
> that's only guesswork as I haven't seen them yet. Anything you'd like
> to say I'd be interested to hear. Much obliged, Joseph Anthony.
My first correspondence to the list and I am already breaking the rules -
but i cannot hear you call the cure a studio band!! Anyone who has
listened to robert belt out "faith" or "100 years" from the darkest part of
his soul, or watched him sit on the edge of the stage singing "lovecats"
would have to agree! Go watch "show" or listen to "paris". Back in 1987 aSmith interview in which he cited ct as a favorite band and
inspiration was the reason i gave the cocteau twins a listen so i guess
this kinda about the twins after all bla bla bla so sorry...michael
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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 02:08:17 -0600
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From: Stratton Davis
Subject: 'Unofficial' CT Video Update
Hello fellow listies,
I hope this message finds everyone enjoying a great new year. If nothing
else then this will give you something to look forward to(that is if you're
interested). As most of you know, a few of us are working together to
distribute a video compilation of all the promo videos as well as many rare
live performances by the Cocteau Twins. If you've already sent your
request to me: stratton@ballistic.com then don't worry; you will be
contacted by the weekend regarding where and to whom to send your money
order. For those of you who either missed this earlier or just recently
joined the list and want a copy, then send me a message to the above
address with the subject header: CT VIDEO WANTED In the body of your mail
give me your name, mailing address and video format required(either
VHS-NTSC or VHS-PAL).
Just a reminder: the price of this video is simply what it cost us to
reproduce it and mail it. No one is making any money on it at all. The
video will be in SP mode on a high grade T-160 or greater videotape(running
time is approximately 2 hours 20 minutes). If you live in the US, then the
cost is $8 payable by money order. If you live in Canada then the cost is
$12(US currency) payable by money order. It will be sent by Priority Mail.
If you live in Great Britain then the cost is 5 pounds stirling payable by
money order. If you live elsewhere in Europe it will be about 6 pounds
stirling payable by money order. Anywhere else the price will most likely
be higher depending on the postage. All this information will be given to
you again when you are contacted by the person making your copy.
Here's another rundown of what's on the video:
Hazel - live at Brixton Academy 11-4-82
Alas Dies Laughing,
Wax and Wane - live at Brixton Academy 11-8-82
>From the Flagstones,
Musette and Drums - live on The Tube 1983
The Spanglemaker,
Pearly Dewdrop's Drops - live on Whistle Test 1985
Lorelei - live on Whistle Test 1984
Song to the Siren - live on Loose Talk 1983
The Spanglemaker,
Pepper-Tree,
Millimillenary,
Rococo,
Pearly Dewdrop's Drops - live at Orebro 10-16-84
Song to the Siren - 4AD promo
Aikea-Guinea - 4AD promo
Pearly Dewdrop's Drops - 4AD promo
Pink Orange Red - live on The Tube 1985
Love's Easy Tears - 4AD promo
Crushed - 4AD promo
Cico Buff - 4AD/Capitol promo
Carolyn's Fingers - 4AD/Capitol promo
Iceblink Luck - 4AD/Capitol promo
Heaven or Las Vegas - 4AD/Capitol promo
Orange Appled,
Ella Megalast Burls Forever - live on SnubTV 3-91
Bluebeard - live on Late Show(UK) 1-94
Evangeline - Mercury/Capitol promo
Bluebeard - Mercury/Capitol promo
Summerhead,
Carolyn's Fingers - live on Jools Holland 5-94
Bluebeard - live on Jay Leno 4-94
Rilkean Heart,
Half-gifts - Mercury/Capitol promo
Seekers Who Are Lovers - live on White Room 11-95
Half-gifts,
Golden Vein - live on MTV's Most Wanted 10-95
Tishbite - Mercury/Capitol promo
Please keep in mind that we(Jim 'Berk'owitz, Ken Clinger, Guy Davis, Mike
Eccles, Paul Spirito and myself) all have other things going on in our
lives besides this project. We will make every attempt to be speedy in our
dubbing efforts but sometimes the mail slows things down. Hopefully most
of you will be enjoying your video by the end of January.
We are in the process of working out a webpage that will serve as a
printable cover/tracklisting for the video. More details of that will
follow soon.
Cheers,
Stratton
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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 04:59:29 EST
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From: DaxDax
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Subject: Re: GOT (A Taste of)MILK??..AND KISSES?
In a message dated 1/6/98 6:52:29 AM, you wrote:
<>
I think the folks that invented the jewel case thought that they were
improving on record sleeves by adding extra protection to the discs (you know
how easily vinyl can become damaged). What they didn't realize was how
cumbersome this would become to anyone who collects music. I have nowhere
left to store all of these bulky jewel cases with ultra-thin CD's inside!
/DAX
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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 19:58:14 GMT
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From: Paul Spirito
Subject: Private: Darren Slocum
My mail to you was bounced as "unknown user". If you want the CT video =
comp,
please write me directly.
Paul
It's noon in the Medlar tree, the sun
Sifting its glitter across the powdery stems.
It doesn't believe in God
And still is absolved.
~Charles Wright
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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 12:08:54 -0800
Reply-To: Kennedy Cosker
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From: Kennedy Cosker
Subject: Sound Quality
Hello,
I was just listening to HOLV and once again noticed that the overall sound seems
really low/flat. I had it really loud, and was also boosting the lows, and I
still didn't feel the dynamics I feel when listening to other CDs. I had the
volume way up and the overall sound was not that "loud". Are there different
pressings of this CD? Is the sound quality of this CD kind of flat? hmmm. It
seems that the cassette I used to play in my truck had better seperation and
kick then this CD.
Peace,
Kennedy
..........Peace to the adventurer...............
Kennedy Santa Cruz, CA
cosker@cruzio.com Wilder Adventures
visit-http://bayvax.decus.org/~cosker/kennedy.html
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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 18:06:31 EST
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From: Raxalah
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Subject: Re: top 11 album lists
In a message dated 98-01-06 01:29:36 EST, you write:
<< these are your top albums and not ONE cocteau twins?! hmmm... >>
well, we were talking about the Top Albums That Came Out in 1997......next
year there will be one, right???
Rax.
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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 19:21:49 -0500
Reply-To: mondacello@bond.net
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From: mondacello
Subject: Re: lyrics
You know, with any other band, I've always wanted to know what the
lyrics are to the songs I hear... but not so with the Twins. To me just
the sound of Liz's voice is more than enough. What she's actually
singing is secondary, she could sing the phonebook and it would sound
like a choir of angels. (sigh)
~MaRk~
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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 19:53:09 EST
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From: TREY MILL
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Subject: reply to M. Carrasco
Hey there in NE> Have to agree with you with HOLV. I like Rauschenberg, he's
actually from Texas and since I live in Houston I have an affinity for texan
artists, (though he spent his formative painting years in NYC)... . I think I
like Jasper Johns better, but I could be wrong. I saw Titanic this weekend
and Enya was used a lot and I wondered how the CT could have been used in the
flick. I like Enya and in a way I can't put into words, I feel that she and
the CT have something in common. It isn't NEW AGE!!!!!!! It is mood. A
Transcendental mood. But of course the CT are far more complex and intricate
than enya. It is like comparing Monet to Picasso? Maybe?? I'm a frustrated
art historian turned MD.
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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 20:34:18 EST
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From: Yummycats
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Subject: Re: reply to M. Carrasco
In a message dated 98-01-06 20:11:29 EST, you write:
<< I saw Titanic this weekend
and Enya was used a lot >>
That wasn't Enya. The vocals were by Sissel Kyrkjebo. Composed by James
Horner.
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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 21:57:10 EST
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From: Ellaburls
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Subject: Re: reply to M. Carrasco
i too thought that was enya used in titanic...i didnt stay to read the credits
though...
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 00:23:56 -0500
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From: "leesa (mender)"
Subject: anyone know the date?
can anyone help me date my bootleg? i have a soundboard recording from the
1990
HOLV tour in detroit and i don't know the exact date!
-------------------------------------------------------
~ mender ~
leesa beales
the cocteau cafe:
http://www.cocteautwins.org/~leesa/cocteautwins/cHTML/
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Date: Tue, 6 Jan 1998 21:47:05 -0800
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From: jack huynh
Subject: Re: anyone know the date?
In-Reply-To: <3.0.3.32.19980107002356.006991a0@popd.netcruiser>
Mime-Version: 1.0
i remember now...it's 11/26/90
At 12:23 AM 1/7/98 -0500, you wrote:
>can anyone help me date my bootleg? i have a soundboard recording from the
>1990
>HOLV tour in detroit and i don't know the exact date!
>
>
>
>-------------------------------------------------------
> ~ mender ~
> leesa beales
>
>the cocteau cafe:
>http://www.cocteautwins.org/~leesa/cocteautwins/cHTML/
>
>
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 05:25:47 -0500
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From: Kieron Perry
Subject: Lisa Gerrard (nonCT)
There was a mail posted yesterday or Monday which mentioned something abo=
ut
a Lisa Gerrard pre release or advance copy. =
Can anyone supply me with any info on this or where to get info on Dead C=
an
Dance. I've tried the 4AD website but this is closed until February
thanks
Kieron
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:07:45 -0500
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From: "leesa (mender)"
Subject: Re: anyone know the date?
regarding my request for the date of the detroit show soundboard=
recording...
now i'm completely fuckin tortured.....
jack says the date is: 11/26/90 and cryptopal says the date was 03/29/90
can anyone else verify either date???
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
~leesa beales~
{{{{mmmmender}}}}
~~~The Cocteau Cafe~~~
http://www.cocteautwins.org/~leesa/cocteautwins/cHTML/
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 09:22:09 -0500
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From: sylvie
Subject: Re: anyone know the date?
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Content-type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1
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hi! it's 11/4/90. a confirmation call is on the way from a buddy of mine
who was also at the PA show on 11/17. i don't think i'm wrong, but i can
tell you that it was definitely not in march of that year.
sylvie
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Date: Wed, 7 Jan 1998 10:17:06 -0500
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From: Kieron Perry