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From: jack huynh
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: new administrator and be patient
Date: Friday, October 10, 1997 4:35 AM
and now a few word from our sponsors...the reason some people are bitching
about the reactiavation of this list was that they had subscribe to it via
the web and didn't recieve anything for a long time. i've try my best to
remove those people that complain on the list, but my time is running short.
anyway stratton davis is your new list administrator and we are working on
enabling the digest mode for this list.
in addition, to keep traffic to a minimal revelance level to this list, i
highly recommend be a little more sensitive to replying to the list with a
'me too' response kind of deal. we can make the reply to field to be the
orginating person, not the list and it would probably be a pain in the ass
to reply to the list for everyone. as much as i love the virtual community
of the twins, i find it increasing difficult to participate because a lack
of common sense from certain people. much like real life, people tend to
gossip on and on and on and have nothing really meaningful to say. not to
say that it is wrong or anything, but the transition to the digital medium
means that everyone must see the babble. so, in a virtual community we
should strive to be a little more courteous to the whole community.
enough of my own babble...
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From: Stratton Davis
To: Cocteau Twins Discussion List
Subject: Re: A Faye Question:
Date: Saturday, October 11, 1997 2:32 AM
You need to get the version that came out in China...not Japan. Faye Wong
is from Hong Kong and that is where most of her fanbase is located. I got
my copy via mailorder from Man's Trading Corporation in Chinatown in San
Francisco. It was about $18.
Stratton
> From: DaxDax@AOL.COM
> To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
> Subject: Re: A Faye Question:
> Date: Saturday, October 11, 1997 2:46 AM
> no way!
> So what Asian import am I supposed to buy?
> Thanks,/DAX
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From: Stratton Davis
To: CT Discussion List
Subject: Faye Wong covers
Date: Sunday, October 12, 1997 2:16 AM
All the recent discussion regarding Faye Wong and her collaborations with
the Twins got me to thinking about other things she has covered that might
be of interest to some of you. I never knew it until recently, but Faye
also covered 'Here's Where The Story Ends' by The Sundays. It's very good
in my opinion and if you're a Sundays fan too then you should try and
track it down. She also covered 'Dreams' by the Cranberries on the same album
where she covered 'Bluebeard' and 'Know Who You Are...'. Anyone else know
of any other interesting covers by Faye?
Stratton
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From: Stratton Davis
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: Basic rules for CT list
Date: Tuesday, October 14, 1997 12:31 PM
I'm in the process of putting together a more suitable welcome letter for
the list than the very generic one that is presently being sent out.
There will be all the basic rules for unsubscribing from the list, posting to
the list, setting the digest mode, guidelines for the list, etc. I suggest
that everyone keep a copy of it as long as they are on the list. For now
I am going to post the basic rules about subscription, posting and digest
for anyone who needs them.
To unsubscribe from the list:
Send an email to: LISTSERV@PIG.CKS.COM
In the body(leave the subject blank) of your message type:
SIGNOFF COCTEAU-L
To post a message to the entire list:
Send your message to COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
To enable the digest mode:
Send an email to: LISTSERV@PIG.CKS.COM
In the body(leave the subject blank) of your message type:
SET COCTEAU-L DIGEST
You must send this message from the email account which is subscribed to
the list and not a forwarded address or a reply-to address.
Any questions, comments or ideas? Feel free to contact me.
Thanks,
Stratton
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From: Suzanne Mastaw
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: fan database and Re: unsubscribe
Date: Wednesday, October 15, 1997 12:23 PM
Now people are just being silly. This list has been virtually *silent*
for the past two days! Oh, and for those who have wondered, I didn't completely and utterly
forget about the Twins fan database... I've been caught up in a whirlwind lately, and am taking the next 2 days off work to recover. In
the next 4 days I'll be updating it 'n everything. For those who don't know what I'm talking to, I maintain the (as
official as it gets) Cocteau Twins Searchable Fan Database, located at
http://www.radiks.net/mastaws/twinslist/ . All the info on it is there, and I'm happy to say that it's been doing
very well, even though I haven't updated it lately, and the list has
been down. So anyways, if you've submitted a bio in the last month and are starting
to think that it's broken, it's not. I've just been really really
swamped with other stuff. Please DO NOT RE-SUBMIT YOUR BIO!!!! That just
makes it worse for me when I update the database...Later all,
milk 'n kisses with iceblink luck,
-Suzanne
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From: daGoddess
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: Re: off topic to Daphne
Date: Wednesday, October 15, 1997 5:01 PM
Here you go!
http://www.geekcode.com/
dd.
>In a message dated 97-10-09 13:15:59 EDT, you write:
>this is geek code, and more fields than i have ever seen! i have heard a
>rumour that this is posted somewhere on the web (i am sure of it...) but
have
>yet to find it. do you have the URL ????
>PJ
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From: ella megalast burls forever
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: Re: SNOW
Date: Wednesday, October 15, 1997 7:49 PM
>Good luck finding Snow. I've been searching fruitlessly for months now.
>If you find a copy, lemme know where! If you're in the SF Bay area, I
>saw a copy of Evangeline in Amoeba in Berkeley the other day.
>The last confirmed sighting of "Snow" was Xmas 1995 at HMV in Boston. (So
>far as I know!)
donīt tell me that!..in my other life i live an hour from boston...
now iīm living 6,000 miles from the SF bay area, but thanks. and i knew the songs were available on different albums, (once i was in
newbury comics and heard frosty playing and nearly fainted~thinking they
had snow) but i want the real thing, you know? so if anyone finds the secret stash of snows, apparently many want to know.
and iīm still wondering how everyone replied to my mail and i still havenīt
even gotten it back yet but oh well.
maria
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From: C.K. Coney
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: My Truth (about this list)
Date: Thursday, October 16, 1997 8:26 AM
Friends,
I was going to refrain from commenting on more comments like this list
"contains drivel" and all the shouting with expletives some people are
doing to get off the list. Please think about the fact that you are
insulting the intelligence of folks who find value in this list. Even the
guacamole recipe thing is fine with me...it's nice that folks feel they
are among friends and can occassionally be silly here. (Of course if
individuals keep being off-topic you may want to take the time to email
them *privately* & gently request they focus a little more!)
This list has been very valuable to me and I've made good friends from
it. Not only have I learned of CT projects, but I've learned of other
artists CT fans like....many of us have traded sampler tapes as well and
been introduced to artists that way.
For me one of the best things to come out of this list was back two Junes
ago when CT toured the US...after totally blissing out seeing them on
their first U.S. gig, here in Atlanta... on impulse I flew up to D.C.
for their next show, on the weekend. I had previously connected with
several folks on this list (Angela, Derrick, Joel, etc.) & we all got
together for dinner and a beer & went on to the show together. As a woman
traveling alone, I was happy to have these new friends with me when the
show let out around 2 a.m. in a seedy section of D.C. I had folks to
"chaperone" me while I waited for a cab, then they got in their own cars
to set off for home. Home, interestingly, was not D.C. for any of our
group...folks drove up from Tennessee, North Carolina, and Virginia to
see Cocteau Twins...their fave band...and I flew up from Atlanta. I've
kept in touch with a few of these good people since that time, and I look
forward to seeing them next time CT comes around. (Also I let a CT fan
from out of town crash at my house after the Atlanta show.)
I for one just wish folks who made a mistake by subscribing and find it's
not what they wanted...I wish they would politely unsubscribe using the
instructions provided you via several emails. The rest of us know that
this list is important to us and will be more important than ever, as CT
has ventured into their own label/business enterprise. They won't have
major label support for marketing and touring as they did in the
past...and this list will be ever so important in getting the word out. I
imagine that Robin and Simon will be (as creative as they are) inventing
new ways to get their work to those who want to experience it. It will
be fun to see how it all evolves, and I for one am sticking with this
list so I can be along for the ride! It will be fun to think of ways we
*all* can use the internet (and other vehicles) to spread the word about
new Bella Union releases and CT on tour!
Peace 'n luv,
Carol
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From: Arumajiro Services
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: Re: My Truth (about this list)
Date: Thursday, October 16, 1997 5:26 PM
Simon's album is being distributed via Dutch East Indies records, not
Capitol. I think they only do distribution, too, so no Capitol pressings.
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From: jack huynh
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: calling cool indie stores..
Date: Friday, October 17, 1997 6:24 AM
howdy folks...
as i have a bunch of wonderful t-shirts in my lap, i want to unload some
of them in major cities in north america. so, does anyone know of some cool
indies stores that may want to resell the t-shirts? a contact number or
something would be great. i would probably sell at wholesell for $12 a
piece, depending on the quantity. i am hoping to get the pre sale orders out by this weekend, but don't hold
you breathe on it. also, i am still working the details for internationl
orders with the digital parking lot, so be patient..
back to fluffy tuft.
jack huynh
jhuy@cks.com
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From: Gawla@AOL.COM
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: bootlegs
Date: Sunday, October 19, 1997 4:52 PM
i couldnt find any list of bootlegs on the web site.
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From: Stratton Davis
To: Cocteau Twins Discussion List
Subject: Re: bootlegs
Date: Sunday, October 19, 1997 5:44 PM
>i couldnt find any list of bootlegs on the web site.
Try this link. It's part of the Treasure Hiding Rarities site.
http://www.bogo.co.uk/daisy/sd_boot1.htm
Stratton
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From: Joe A. Scerri
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: gay cocteau heads are go
Date: Tuesday, October 21, 1997 7:34 PM
hell-o peepull
I would like to know if there are any interesting gay cocteau twins
fanatics out there that I can correspond with. I'm sure there are a a few
so get yer fingers out and get typin' on that keyboard you here me!
Looking forward to hearing your stories and your cocteau experiences.
joe x
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From: Fritch, William
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: Cocteau Twins Concert Photos
Date: Tuesday, October 21, 1997 7:57 AM
This is my first e-mail to the list although I have enjoyed reading
everyone's rants and raves. I am looking for any live recordings on CD and/or vinyl. I already have
Pearly, Pink, & White, Live in London, and the infamous Snow which took me
5 years to find and when I did it was by ice-blink luck.
Anyway, I am looking to ad to my collection and I am looking also for the
HOLV single with 3 tracks and the Chinese release of M&K with the Faye
Wong covers. In exchange I have a limited number of Cocteau Twins Photographs from a
recent concert. They are in color and glossy. They were taken by a
professional photographer and are excellent quality close-ups. I have 3
different sets of two 8x10, three different 5x7, two different 4x6, and
twenty 3x5. I am accepting trades first and if I have any left I will consider
selling. E-mail me here or write to Bryan Fritch, 2701 Tortoise Ln, Killeen, TX
76542-2640.
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From: serenalp
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: Re: the status of the list
Date: Tuesday, October 21, 1997 9:49 AM
whats the adress of the only-news site ?
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From: Joseph Schlottman
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: Re: who where what why whatcha???? -Reply
Date: Tuesday, October 21, 1997 3:14 PM
On Tue, 21 Oct 1997, ALEX WRIGHT wrote:
> >>> "Joe A. Scerri" 21/10/97 19:00 >>>
> hi COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
>
> who are you ?
> where are you ?
> whatcha like ?
> whatcha do ?
I'm anthony schlottman
I'm at the EVergreen college in Olympia Washington, USA
I like Cocteau Twins, guitar effects pedals, painting, writing, drugs,
Pixies, anarchy, punk rock, My Bloody Valentine, piercings, tattoos,
boys, girls, and The Lord of the Rings.
Greetings down under.
(no offense there)
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From: AlanWhelan@AOL.COM
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: Re: gay cocteau heads are go
Date: Tuesday, October 21, 1997 5:13 PM
Hi Joe,
To answer your questions :)
who are you ?
Alan, a UK Cocteaus fan of 12 years (gettin on a bit).
where are you ?
I refer the honourable gentleman to my earlier reply, but in detail;
At home, sitting in front of my monitor. Home = Birkenhead (Liverpool's
alter-ego across the Mersey - as per the song).
whatcha like ?
Does this mean, what do you like? or what are you like?
I like; life in general, but detail can get me down. My friends, my music
and
books, thats about it. what I'm like doesn't bear too much examination.
whatcha do ?
As little as possible, but to earn a crust - operations analyst.
But from your other email .............
<<
I would like to know if there are any interesting gay cocteau twins
fanatics out there that I can correspond with. I'm sure there are a a few
so get yer fingers out and get typin' on that keyboard you here me!
Looking
forward to hearing your stories and your cocteau experiences.
>>
I'm certainly interesting but not Gay. Sorry wrong way round - Gay but
not
interesting.
Like I said, have been listening ever since I heard Treasure in '85 from a
good friend. Never been disapointed in an album and never been to a bad
live
show. Not many (if any) bands you can say that about.
Anyway, gotto go.
alan
Without any sig stuff at all, the power of a good washing powder.
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From: Michael
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: Re: gay cocteau heads are go
Date: Tuesday, October 21, 1997 5:46 PM
Would like to talk to gay Cocteau fans also!
AlanWhelan@AOL.COM wrote:
> Hi Joe,
>
> To answer your questions :)
>
> who are you ?
>
> Alan, a UK Cocteaus fan of 12 years (gettin on a bit).
>
> where are you ?
>
> I refer the honourable gentleman to my earlier reply, but in detail;
> At home, sitting in front of my monitor. Home = Birkenhead (Liverpool's
> alter-ego across the Mersey - as per the song).
>
> whatcha like ?
>
> Does this mean, what do you like? or what are you like?
>
> I like; life in general, but detail can get me down. My friends, my
music and
> books, thats about it. what I'm like doesn't bear too much examination.
>
> whatcha do ?
>
> As little as possible, but to earn a crust - operations analyst.
>
> But from your other email .............
>
> <<
> I would like to know if there are any interesting gay cocteau twins
> fanatics out there that I can correspond with. I'm sure there are a a
few
> so get yer fingers out and get typin' on that keyboard you here me!
Looking
> forward to hearing your stories and your cocteau experiences.
> >>
>
> I'm certainly interesting but not Gay. Sorry wrong way round - Gay but
not
> interesting.
>
> Like I said, have been listening ever since I heard Treasure in '85 from
a
> good friend. Never been disapointed in an album and never been to a bad
live
> show. Not many (if any) bands you can say that about.
>
> Anyway, gotto go.
>
> alan
>
> Without any sig stuff at all, the power of a good washing powder.
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From: Jose' F. Berroa-Saro
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: Re: who where what why whatcha???? -Reply
Date: Tuesday, October 21, 1997 6:09 PM
who are you ?
I am Jose' Fidel Berroa-Saro
where are you ?
I live in Harlem, New York City.
whatcha like ?
I like DJaying, mixing Cocteau Twins songs with other ethereal, classical
music or mixing their music with the sounds of oceans, birds, whales, rain
and wind. I love spending most of my time in my room mixing, or reading
Feminist Critical Theory, Literature, eating Indian, Ethopian, of course
Carribean food (I am half Puerto Rican half Dominican) and I love poetry,
Beluga Whales, Dogs, my turtle "Shen," and of course Cocteau Twins (fan
for
11 years)
whatcha do ?
I am a grad student at Columbia University and at Union Theological
Seminary studying Ethics concentrating in Sexuality, Body Politics in a
Feminist Philospical Approach. I am also feminist activist. My thesis I
will include a whole chapter on Cocteau Twins, I hope they will let me
deconstruct their music and Elizabeth Fraser's songs. My part-time job is
in the United Nations I work as a seminar desiger.
Jose' Fidel Berroa-Saro http://www.critpath.org/~jose
**************** ************ ************** ************
He who is reluctant to recognize me opposes me. In a savage struggle I am
willing to accept convulsions of death, invincible dissolution, but also
the possibility of the impossible.
-Frantz Fanon
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From: keifer monk
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: Re: Twins vs. Alanis
Date: Wednesday, October 22, 1997 7:37 AM
yes, i did notice the cocteau-esque sound of that song-my girlfriend
pointed it out to me. to all those i offended by my comments about
alanis, i'm sorry i dont want to start any hard feelings- i was just
trying to make a point about the music industries lack of trust in the
public to be able to choose what is good for radio and what is not.
radio is not what it should be or had been. what you hear nowadays is not
disc jockeys but "on-air personalities", which usually translates into
trained monkeys with a B.A. and their only talent is sounding cheerful
while pushing all those buttons. d.j's used to be responsible for
discovering talent and the radio listeners were the ones who decided if
they liked that talent or not. Now record companies sponsor radio
stations. And executive play lists have replaced the free-thinking dj.
the record companies decide what single will be played off the album.
that is why you will only hear one or two songs of an album because they
are afraid that if just like the first single but not the rest, you wont
buy the album. sometimes if a record company feels as there isn't a
strong "hit" of the album before it's released they will make sure radio
stations play that bands last big hit instead of a new single(example:
did anyone notice an increase of air time for radioheads "creep" just
before and after "o.k. computer" came out?) you cant call in to a radio
station and request a song of an album that wasn't on a play list, which
is kinda stupid, why would i want to call in and request a song that is
being played twice an hour already?(but unfortunately people do anyway)
this radio stance of not taking chances is what has led to the sad state
of affairs and the likes of hootie and the blowchunks and collective no
soul.(if you are fans of either band, i'm not making fun of you and i
respect your right to like what you want, plus i dont think my comments
will affect their piles of money)-my point in all that rambling was this
seek out new music, go to clubs, read reviews, take a chance. dont buy
into a band or performer because radio tells you. it was around 1987, i
was in a tower music store. the store was packed but over the din of
people, i could hear this music that really impressed me, I asked the
clerk who it was and he replied: "the cocteau twins" - i bought the tape
right then and there. when I got home, i put it in and became a fan
forever(i didn't even know there was vocals on it because the store was
so loud i could only hear instruments...although i was to soon hear the
greatest instrument in the band, liz's voice!)
anyway sorry to ramble and sorry again if anyone takes offense to
my comments, i'm really don't want to start any "wars"-but i would like
to say if you are a fan of alanis, you should check out heather nova(her
live albums and eps-not her studio album "oyster"(it really doesn't
capture her spirit) are incredible as well as her life story. also
what's the news about a new album in nov.!(is it true? is that the
european release date?)
see ya- k.monk
EMITPULSE@JUNO.COM
On Tue, 21 Oct 1997 18:00:47 -0400 Matt Gross
writes:
>well, i do have to agree with the previous "description" of alanis.
>she
>is rather annoying, but, on occasion, tolerable. i just wanted make a
>point about one of her songs... i'm sure this has been brought up here
>before... but, in the song "ironic" where she sings 'life has a funny
>way of sneakin up on you when you think everythings, blah, blah, blah'
>does anyone else notice a cocteau-esque sound? intentional?
>accidental? tribute? or stolen? hmmmm. i was just curious.
>actually
>a friend pointed it out to me and i was very surprised at how much of
>a
>twins sound that part of the song displayed. any comments are
>welcome.
>i'd love to get some other opinions on this.
>
>--
>Matt Gross
>http://whirljack.home.mindspring.com/
>whirljack@mindspring.com
>
>****************************************************
>"...don't think coz' i understand, i care
> don't think coz' i'm talking, we're friends..."
> --Sneaker Pimps from 6 Underground
>****************************************************
>
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From: Fritch, William
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: Photos
Date: Wednesday, October 22, 1997 8:18 AM
First, I would like to thank everyone who responded to my offer to trade
the
Cocteau Twins Photos for CDs and Vinyl I am looking for to ad to my
collection.
I do not blame any of you for not wanting to give up your CDs/Vinyl and I
appreciate your willingness to provide me cassette copies as a trade. The
photos I have are extra photos as I would not give up a part of my
collection either. I was simply wondering if anyone had extra copies
(CD/Vinyl) in your collection.
Amy, I wrote to Jack but I received a return e-mail saying that the
address
was bad. I believe the address I have is Jack@novomedia.com. If you have
a
better address then please let me know. I am willing to donate some of
the
pictures to Jack to display on the Web Site if he so desires. However, I
can not simply give you copies, Xerox or otherwise, of the pictures for
free
just like I do not believe you would send me a sample of your boots on
cassette for free so I can decide if I wanted to trade.
What I have decided to do is just sell them outright. $15 for the 8x10's,
$10 for the rest of the sizes except for the 3x5's which are for $5. I
will accept cash certified letter or money orders and will only take
orders
by post. Send request to: Bryan Fritch, 2701 Tortoise Ln, Killeen, TX,
76542-2640. First come, first serve until I run out of the extra photos.
Again these were taken by a professional photographer, color, glossy,
close-up of Liz in all of her glory.
I am giving you each a crack at this first and if not I will include them
in
my next ad in GOLDMINE.
Good luck and love always,
Bryan
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From: jack huynh
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: punishment for being a bad subsciber
Date: Wednesday, October 22, 1997 3:02 AM
call me morbid but when i used to be admin for the list, i sometimes would
disallow certain people from posting to the list. those people are the
ones
that one to get off! talk about torture. heheh
in other cocteau news, i've heard some depressing news about the cocteaus,
but i am not a gossip machine. but i know that they are definitely having
trouble finishing this 'final' album for numerous reasons.
on the bright side, robin is producing a couple of japanese bands and
simon may hit the states after all.....
good day
jack huynh jhuy@cks.com
cks | partners x 226
ella thrills. theressa comforts. sinead rocks.
-excerpt from the forthcoming trilogy :
"spaceage bachelor garden"
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From: Fairieglo@AOL.COM
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: Re: who where what why whatcha????
Date: Wednesday, October 22, 1997 1:30 PM
In a message dated 10/22/97 12:21:38 AM, you wrote:
<< who are you ?
i am melanie
> where are you ?
sacramento, california
> whatcha like ?
pagan/goth/faerie girl...loves ethereal music, cats, halloween, books,
art,
pretty stuff. :)
> whatcha do ?>>
boring job, enjoy my languid moments with my son and live in boyfriend
david
(thanks to this list!!!!)
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From: Youth Dynamics, Inc. - Livingston
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: What do you mean, Jack?
Date: Wednesday, October 22, 1997 1:36 PM
In your message "punishment for being a bad subscriber", you wrote this...
"in other cocteau news, i've heard some depressing news about the cocteaus,
but i am not a gossip machine. but i know that they are definitely having
trouble finishing this 'final' album for numerous reasons."
What do you mean by "final" album. Please don't tell me that there is even
a remote possibility of the Twins no longer recording. Each year and a
half, or so, I start itching badly for that new disc and don't know what to
do if I get that itch and I can't "scratch" it.
Please elaborate.
Thanks
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From: Fairieglo@AOL.COM
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: Re: punishment for being a bad subsciber
Date: Wednesday, October 22, 1997 1:38 PM
In a message dated 10/22/97 10:07:37 AM, you wrote:
<>
uuhhhh, jack....?
WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU TALKING ABOUT???!!!
maybe you are not a gossip machine, but you simply cant tell us there is
depressing news about the cocteaus and then mention a 'final' album.....
please dont let it be so....
~melanie
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From: AlanWhelan@AOL.COM
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: Re: gay cocteau heads are go
Date: Wednesday, October 22, 1997 1:44 PM
In a message dated 21/10/97 23:52:39 GMT, you write:
<< Would like to talk to gay Cocteau fans also!
>>
Well Michael, with you, me and the aussi? guy Joe (limepin@ZIP.COM.AU)
then
that makes three. If we had a subject we could almost converse. I'll
sugest
(is that spelt write, it looks rong :)) The best Cocteau's concert you
ever
attended.
The third time I saw the Cocteaus was at a Concert in Manchester as their
tour didn't extend to Liverpool that year (Four Calendar Cafe). It was in
a
place off Oxford road by the University called the Manchester Academy. It
was the first time I had ever been there (I would normally see a band in
Liverpool and wouldn't stray too far for anybody else). The atmos was
cool
from the start and the support was a band called Seefeel (unsigned at the
tme
but later on Warp). They were excellent and started the event off
marvellously. Then the Cocteaus came on and kicked in with Pur, my
favourite off the FCC album. I almost cried.
The rest of the set was perfect, not a single flaw I can remember. I was
supposed to go out with a couple of the guy's that went with me after the
concert but all I can recall is leaving on a high and then waking the next
morning. I might have been out on the town but no memories remain except
the
concert (bit too prissy that bit. No memories probably due to alcohol).
Anyway, thats that, email back with your best.
Speak (sort off) soon,
Alan (without some soft-sig).
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From: Stratton Davis
To: Cocteau Twins Discussion List
Subject: Re: Unknown band
Date: Thursday, October 23, 1997 9:35 AM
> It could well be "Primitive Painters" by Felt. This was released in
> 1985.
>
> If it is an up beat tempo track in which the singer (male - Lawrence)
> has a very distinctive voice, and in which Liz does not sing at the
> same time as him, but comes in separately, then it could well be this.
>
And Liz sings this line over and over, 'Oh you should see my trail of
disgrace'.
Stratton
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From: Stephen O Jacinto
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: Moose?
Date: Thursday, October 23, 1997 11:17 AM
Hey , its stevo...hmm...what song did Liz do with moose and how can I get
a hold of it?
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From: Stratton Davis
To: Cocteau Twins Discussion List
Subject: Re: Moose?
Date: Thursday, October 23, 1997 11:29 AM
>
> Hey , its stevo...hmm...what song did Liz do with moose and how can I
get
> a hold of it?
It's called 'Play God' and is on the album 'Live a Little Love a Lot'.
It's a great song, but she's just in the backing vocals...no main
appearance.
Stratton
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From: Zimbo81@AOL.COM
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: Re: Unknown band
Date: Thursday, October 23, 1997 12:14 PM
liz also sings on "heaven's gate" by ian mc culloch & "roach" by B*O*M.
robin has also worked with The Veldt. he has produced them & played on a
track. heck, so has lincoln fong....he played bass on The Veldt's
"marigolds"
ep & has engineered some of their stuff...
-mike (Veldt fan)
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From: jack huynh
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: Re: "final"album?
Date: Thursday, October 23, 1997 6:22 AM
okay..i'll spill some beans before everyone goes up in arms to the twins
and demand an answer.
let's just say that their intention was to release plenty of stuff on
bella
union, but certain circumstances has made it difficult for the group to
work in the studio on a regular basis. given that we control their own
destiny with their record label, they are not under contractual
obligations
to do a number of certain albums for x period of time. So, when the things
don't go smoothly for the group, we are not obligated by contract to work
through their problems as a group and crank out something. with that being
said, i believe (although i am merely stringing a bunch of drops of news
from close sources together) that they promised themselves to put out
another album, but the future will be very uncertain in regards to more
material as the cocteau twins.
At 03:43 PM 10/23/97 -0400, you wrote:
>In a message dated 10/23/97 10:14:09 AM, you wrote:
>
><with this e-mail underneath mine, it says that the twins are having
>trouble finishing their 'final' album...is this the last one? I thought
>that they were going to be puting out some more EP"S and stuf along that
>line? please correct me if I misinterpreted this messege? I say they
are
>too young and toog ood to retire! :)>>
>
>and why the hell would they go through all the trouble of forming a new
>record label only to make one more album??!!
>
>~melanie
>
>
jack huynh jhuy@cks.com
cks | partners x 226
ella thrills. theressa comforts. sinead rocks.
-excerpt from the forthcoming trilogy :
"spaceage bachelor garden"
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From: Fritch, William
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: Final
Date: Thursday, October 23, 1997 2:59 PM
Damn, I know that I am just like everyone else, eager for a new album to
be
released and wish that they could do it forever but let us face reality.
It's obvious they need a break from being a band and to concentrate on
their personal lives and to grow and do other things. CAN WE BE MORE
DEMANDING PEOPLE!!!!! I mean they are working on a new label and it has
been a rough go of it I'm sure seeing that the official web page hasn't
been
updated since July, July, July!
We should be giving them our support and love as fans. The way everyone
has
been talking about this 'final' album makes me want to go out and buy
stock
in fuckin' Gillette.
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From: Stratton Davis
To: Cocteau Twins Discussion List
Subject: Veldt was Re: Unknown band
Date: Thursday, October 23, 1997 12:23 PM
>
> liz also sings on "heaven's gate" by ian mc culloch & "roach" by B*O*M.
> robin has also worked with The Veldt. he has produced them & played on a
> track. heck, so has lincoln fong....he played bass on The Veldt's
> "marigolds"
> ep & has engineered some of their stuff...
>
>
> -mike (Veldt fan)
>
Speaking of the Veldt, does anyone(mike?) know if Liz sings back up on
'Willow Tree'? It sounds *just* like her but she's not in the credits at
all.
Stratton(another Veldt fan)
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From: Amy Conger
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: SEMI-CT: Faye Wong's new Album
Date: Friday, October 24, 1997 1:36 AM
Hello Everyone!
I just got Faye Wong's new self-titled CD "Wong Fei"! Yay!
If you appreciate her sweet cocteau-reflective-ness like I do, read on.
May it help you to decide whether or not to drop the US$15-20 for it.
Check her website for a picture of the cover so you
know what to look for. That's where I also found Kay's translation of the
titles.
I don't know how widely it's availble. (I walked into the first cd shop I
saw in Chinatown, SF this afternoon and was shown right to it.)
IN GENERAL...
On the whole, it is a well put-together pop album.
More like "Crazy Thinking" than "Impatience", it has a few yucky ballads
but the rest is a tasty assortment of pop excercises.
Faye and her band try on many western styles -- including Western!
So, overall, it's derivitive in feeling but you just have to love Faye
(when she's not singing a ballad)!
There are two CT contributions. Robin and Simon recorded the music for
track 4, Entertainment Ground, for Faye (you can tell). Faye has also
rerecorded Rilkean Heart accoustically (track 8, Nostalgia).
NOW FOR EACH TRACK:
1. ANAESTHETIC
sweet, cocteau-y dreamy guitar tune
nicely programmed drums come in mid-song
syrupy thick with rich backing vocals
2. YOU'RE HAPPY ( SO I'M HAPPY)
slow and countrified, but in an 80's college-pop sort of way
plain, soulful singing with no harmonies
childlike torch song
3. BORED
much different than your usual Faye, she airs some angst in
this driven, Til Tuesday meets XTC pop-rock tune complete
with distorted guitar!
again -- so 80's !?
4. ENTERTAINMENT GROUND
oooh.. Robin and Simon have carved out a haunting
groove for Faye to play in. While at some points the
vocals could have been mixed in better, Faye rises
to the occasion with her beautiful voice.
5. MORTALS
the strings sound great then the rest of the song comes in... :(
blech... ballad
6. I DON'T IT TO BE LIKE THIS TOO
blech... ballad
7. MAKING A FUSS
simple and brisk, sunshiny pop song with mandolin
reminds me of the Sundays and 10,000 maniacs with a
nanosecond of Joni Mitchell
8. NOSTALGIA
fairly straightforward accoustic rerecording of RILKEAN HEART
--okay, when I found out that
Faye had redone this song, I wondered if I might like it better
than CT's.. well.. a little more.
it's better that I can't understand the words
it's only guitar and voice, which is nice
i like her ending vocal riff better than Liz's!
9. PUT OUT FIRE
blech... ballad
10. CLOUD'S EDGE
ballad... not completely revolting
THAT"S ALL
Well, 4 ballads and 6 good pop tunes: pretty much what I expected.
I have only listened to it twice and I know for sure which tracks I'll
skip, but I don't know which will grow on me after many listenings.
Wondering why I sort of dismiss the ballads?
(of course, I mean that certain type of love song when I say "ballad" )
Well, I just don't like them, so I can't give an opinion on them.
I also have Faye's "Crazy Thinking" and "Impatience". They both have
Cocteau contributions. "Impatience" is a must-have!
Happy Fayentizing!
AMy
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From: Jul
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: Unkown Band No More...
Date: Friday, October 24, 1997 2:37 AM
You all are so good:
>From: Highbury Mig
>Subject: Re: Unknown band
>Jul,
>It could well be "Primitive Painters" by Felt. This was released in
>1985.
>If it is an up beat tempo track in which the singer (male - Lawrence)
>has a very distinctive voice, and in which Liz does not sing at the
>same time as him, but comes in separately, then it could well be this.
This is it! Ha, I knew you guys would get it! To think I taped this
off the radio about 10 years ago and finally get the title, what
a relief ;) A new band for me (that's old)!
>And Liz sings this line over and over, 'Oh you should see my trail of
>disgrace'.
>Stratton
She sure does! Now for another question: How hard is this
record to find? Import? Domestic? Is the rest of their stuff as good?
So excited,
Jul
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From: Paul Spirito
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: Felt
Date: Friday, October 24, 1997 3:17 AM
Forwarded from the 4ad list.
Paul
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On 18 Oct 97 at 21:27, wrongeye wrote:
> hmm
> so inn my record buying binge today (17 records. 1 cd.. i was bad),
> i came across a record that i had never seen before. i didnt know
> what i was, but it was produced by robin guthrie, and vocals by
> elizabeth frazer. naturally i swiped it up. its on cherry red
> records and i thinkthe band is called felt. never heard of em.
> someone tell me all about it. i think the single is called
> primitive painters.
Ah yes, the bi-monthly "anyone tell me about Felt?" thread.
Robin Guthrie produced "Ignite the Seven Cannons" (from which this
single was taken, only track on which Liz sings) and "Ballad of the
Band" (another single, their first on Creation). Felt started off as
an indie guitar band (but always with a twist to the sound - no mere
Byrds copyists, they sounded more like a quiet Television), and
across the ten albums encompassed the lush grandiose "Primitive
Painters" (Robin's finest non-Cocteaus production), jazz ("Train
above the City, instrumental album), moog pop ("Space Blues"), and
all sorts of other wonderful music. Albums (all are fairly short):
Crumbling the Antiseptic Beauty
The Splendour of Fear
The Strange Idol's Pattern and Other Short Stories
(Cherry Red, all guitar/bass/drums with poetic lyrics)
Ignite the Seven Cannons
(Still Cherry Red, the addition of Martin Duffy on Hammond gave a
more ornate sound)
Let the Snakes Crinkle their Heads to Death
(Moved to Creation, this is less than 20 minutes of strange and
beautiful instrumentals in various styles)
Forever Breathes the Lonely Word
Poem of the River
(The second has some great instrumental work, as one of the
original guitarists had left when they signed to Creation they
started to use extra musicians)
The Pictorial Jackson Review
(Simple songs on one side, two Martin Duffy piano instrumentals on
the other)
Train Above the City
(Duffy and drummer Gary Ainge make a vibes/piano/drums jazz
instrumental album, the only contributions from singer/songwriter
Lawrence are the song titles)
Me and a Monkey on the Moon
(El records, as Creation couldn't get it out quick enough to
fulfill Lawrence's "ten albums in ten years" plan, back to songs)
There are a couple of compilations called "Absolute Classic
Masterpieces" which cover the Cherry Red and Creation years, both
have a lot of non-album singles added to them (ten singles were
released alongside the ten albums, most of them weren't on any of the
albums).
> ALSO
> i found out about the toopure site. apparently, the site itseelf is
> still ownedby american (i think thats who owns it). but they dont
> have a web server right now. my friend has just put up a new site
> at www.post-rock.com that deals with bands like kranky, duophonic,
> thrill jockey, and more... it has a link to the toopure site, and
> he iss the one who told me about the toopure site. so dont fret..
> it still exists,,.. just down for now.. hope that helps
There are a couple of Too Pure sites - American Records used to
handle Too Pure's US distribution but don't any more (didn't the
label collapse?) and recently a new site was set up at
www.toopure.com, but this has disappeared in the last week or two - a
pity, as it was well designed and informative (the American/Too Pure
site was one of those "brilliant when set up but seldom changed"
sites like the 4AD one).
--
Andrew Norman, Leicester, England
andrew@riverrun.demon.co.uk
http://www.riverrun.demon.co.uk/
http://www.riverrun.demon.co.uk/singles/ (updated 14/10/97)
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From: Arumajiro Services
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: Elizabeth's duets or collaborations
Date: Saturday, October 25, 1997 8:50 PM
Here is what I finally came up with, excluding the new Bathers CD(
which I don't have) and things on vinyl( This Mortal Coil "Sixteen
Days / Gathering Dust" and BOM "Roach"), as well as her and Wong Faye
singing "Serpentskirt" together on the Milk & Kisses Asian version.
They are sorted by date order, but I could be wrong. If anything is
missing or incorrect, please email me.
---- included file: collaborations.txt ----
The Wolfgang Press, The Legendary Wolfgang Press And Other Tall Stories
LP, Respect, 1984/07
This Mortal Coil, It'll End In Tears LP, Another Day, 1984
, Song To The Siren, 1984
Dif Juz, Extractions LP, Love Insane, 1985/04/6-20
Felt, Ignite The Seven Cannons LP, Primitive Painters, 1985/09/20
, The Day The Rain Came Down, 1985/09/20
The Wolfgang Press, Standing Up Straight LP, I Am The Crime, 1986
Ian Mcculloch, Candleland, Candleland LP, 1989
Ian Mcculloch, Candleland( The Second Coming) Single, Candleland( The
Second Coming), 1990
Ian Mcculloch, Mysterio LP, Heaven's Gate, 1992
Fuel, Timeless EP, Butterfly Knife, 1993
Peace Together, Peace Together LP, Be Still, 1993
Medicine, The Sounds Of Medicine EP, Time Baby 3, 1994
The Future Sounds Of London, Lifeforms EP, Lifeforms( Path 1), 1994
, Lifeforms( Path 2), 1994
, Lifeforms( Path 3), 1994
, Lifeforms( Path 4), 1994
, Lifeforms( Path 5), 1994
, Lifeforms( Path 6), 1994
, Lifeforms( Path 7), 1994
Moose, Live A Little Love A Lot LP, Play God, 1995
The Bathers, Sunpowder LP, Danger In Love, 1995
, The Angel On Ruskin, 1995
, The Dutch Venus, 1995
, The Night Is Young, 1995
Spooky, Found Sound LP, Hypo-Allergenic, 1996
---- end included file ----
BTW, I understand Elizabeth is not on every track of the Lifeforms EP.
Is this true?
Which tracks is she on?
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From: Fairieglo@AOL.COM
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: Re: COCTEAU-L Digest - 24 Oct 1997 to 25 Oct 1997
Date: Sunday, October 26, 1997 2:18 PM
oops, i hit send without finishing off...
nobody is making the genaralization that any guy who likes CT must be gay,
but look around, notice something...i'd say close to half of the guys on
here
have stated that they are gay. (at least thats the ones who post. who
knows
about the lurkers..) maybe your average straight guy can't admit he likes
swirly pretty sounds...and i mean your average straight guy who lives for
pearl jam and metallica!!! nobody here is "ignorant" as you so kindly put
it. we are just curious about things we have noticed. come on, how can
you
not notice when half the people around you are gay?
~melanie
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From: athol-brose
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: ATTENTION: ANTHONY SCHLOTTMAN!
Date: Sunday, October 26, 1997 3:08 PM
I was in the process of cleaning out my inbox when I came across your
email
saying you are at Evergreen! I went to Evergreen for a year, 1995-1996,
but
came back to S.F. cuz the rain drove me mad. I wonder if we have any
mutual
friends...
My apologies to everyone else for subjecting you to my whimsical message.
athol-brose
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From: Cocteau Twins Discussion List on behalf of Joseph Schlottman
Sent: Tuesday, October 21, 1997 1:14 PM
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: Re: who where what why whatcha???? -Reply
On Tue, 21 Oct 1997, ALEX WRIGHT wrote:
> >>> "Joe A. Scerri" 21/10/97 19:00 >>>
> hi COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
>
> who are you ?
> where are you ?
> whatcha like ?
> whatcha do ?
I'm anthony schlottman
I'm at the EVergreen college in Olympia Washington, USA
I like Cocteau Twins, guitar effects pedals, painting, writing, drugs,
Pixies, anarchy, punk rock, My Bloody Valentine, piercings, tattoos,
boys, girls, and The Lord of the Rings.
Greetings down under.
(no offense there)
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From: Cox, Jonathan Campbell
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: Re: Elizabeth's ...
Date: Sunday, October 26, 1997 4:12 PM
Stephen O Jacinto wrote:
>
> Hey j
> It's stevo and I was wondering if we were comparing the samething? I
> have the single/Ep to lifeforms pathways 1-7, I know FSOL also has an LP
> with a form of lifeforms, I haven't heard it yet, but I think I will go
> grab, I just wanted to make sure that we were talking about the same
> album. I know on the back of the one I have they credit her and Robin,
> hmmmm... let me know if we have the same ones.:) stevo
YO!
Yeah, that is the one I was referring to, not the double CD Lifeforms.
Like you said, she is not credited with doing vocals on the album, but I
don't think her voice is on the track on the album. I went back and
listened to the ep again and I heard Liz's vocal treatments on the first
couple of tracks (Paths 1 and 2), but I had never heard them before. I
pretty much only pay attention to the fourth track (Path 4) because her
vocals stand out like I said throughout the entire track. I guess that
is probably because I owned this ep before I owned anything by the
Twins, so after I got into the Twins, I went back and listened to track
4 more because that was the only track in which the vocals stood out
that I could remember.
And about why they would have chosen her to do vocals, I would guess
that it is because none of their songs to my knowledge have actual
lyrics or singers (only samples), so to fit their music when they wanted
actual singers they decided to get singers who can do atmospheric things
with their voices without sounding dumb. Can you imagine Alanis
Morissette trying to do something like the vocals on Lifeforms? Hence
Toni Halliday's contribution to the track Cerebral on the LP Lifeforms
also.
L8R,
J
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From: David Priddy
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: Re: Fox
Date: Sunday, October 26, 1997 5:37 PM
Oh yes, found the following as well :
http://sunflower.singnet.com.sg/~tonym/fox.html
David Priddy
Telford, UK
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From: Amy Conger
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: FSOL talks about Liz
Date: Monday, October 27, 1997 12:36 AM
Excerpt from interview with FSOL in Mondo 2000 #13:
MONDO 2000
Why did you choose to work with Liz Fraser on the LIFEFORMS
single?
GARY COBAIN
She's one of the few vocalists that we find really evocative. Most
musicians are just so linear in their thought. Like Robert Fripp
--
we had to edit him to fuck on that radio show because he typically
wanted to play across it.
The whole analogy with us to a band would be: if you've got a
stage
and you try to present it as a band you'd have like 2,000
musicians
each of whom came on, stood around for 99% of the gig and then
just raised, say, their flute and went "whoot!" Musicians would
just
feel too uncomfortable doing that. It might be brilliant in terms
of the
listening thing, it might really benefit from that flute only
coming in
once, but the flautist would feel so uncomfortable; they'd want to
perform. That's the musician's natural instinct, to have the flute
playing all the way through it. The guitarist wouldn't be able to
stop --
he'd be all over the track! He'd maybe pause for one bar. The drum
would go all the way through it. That whole method of
self-indulgent
musicianship is over for us. And Liz Fraser has that non-linear
look --
I thought so anyway, but ahe's really more scatty than that; it's
bizarre.
There was a really heavy editing process. Then we had all the
overlays, because what she does is she has a little cassette
recorder, she listens to it a couple of times giving prompt
points.
Then she completely wings it -- ad libs it -- and she gets this
kind of
mess and starts overlaying it to get structure, to try and
accentuate
certain bits. Co, it's really quite complicated. That day in
itself and
from there onwards was quite a mess, to actually get that track
into
fruition.
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From: Joel Krueger
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: Re: COCTEAU-L Digest - 24 Oct 1997 to 25 Oct 1997
Date: Tuesday, October 28, 1997 1:25 AM
On Mon, 27 Oct 1997, Alan Arnesto wrote:
> ok one more time. i have spoken my peace and apologized already to those
> that i offended it seemed very cut and dry to me. im sorry that i seem
> defensive but it not fun to voice an opinion about music and who can
> identify with it then get barraged by everyone in here. i mean thats
> what i saw ' it seems like homosexual men can more easily identify with
> the music' is what i read in the conversation...
i inferred the same thing, alan, because that's pretty much what the
post stated verbatim. can't remember who wrote it, though i suppose that's
irrelevant. this whole "sexual orientation/appreciation of the twins"
thread is certainly one of the more stubborn recurring topics on this list
-- thought we've laid this one to rest at least three or four times prior
to this current edition.
fact is, any attempt to correlate one's intuitive sensitivity to art with
sexual orientation is inevitably venturing into some pretty tangled
theoretical landscapes -- and this list isn't likely to hack out any
solutions over the course of a few posts.
several ankle surgeries ago i was a 230 lb college football player who
used to listen to a tape of "cherry-colored funk", metallica's "enter
sandman", and then "carolyn's fingers" over and over before each game to
get the juices flowing -- something about the heart-breaking precision
with which liz slides into her upper register on "carolyn's fingers" made
me want to disembowl somebody...other players would constantly ask me what
i was listening to, and after taking a listen say "that's pretty, but
it'd put me to sleep." had they heard them in another context, i'd hazard
a guess that several ex-teammates of mine might have been fairly receptive
to the twins -- and no, i'm not just talking about the kickers :)
no real point to this story, other than that i'm simply postponing yet
another philosophy paper...if anyone on this list can give plausible
elucidation of how we can have knowledge of propositions that exist
outside spaciotemporal boundaries without causal interaction, please send
me your take on it in roughly 1500 words (double-spaced w/pages numbered,
please). thanks. oh, yeah -- before midnight would be *most* helpful.
joel, who's lost about 50 lbs since his playing days and can actually wear
his holv t-shirt again -- yipeee!
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From: C.K. Coney
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: Fwd. CT-related msg (partial)
Date: Tuesday, October 28, 1997 11:58 AM
Since CT-list is pretty quieted down, I'm forwarding a portion of a msg.
I got via the Pure/Impure list...referring to Robin, and thus sorta
CT-related/on-topic. Hope no one minds! I found it interesting, at least.
Peace,
Carol
~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
--------- Begin forwarded message ----------
From: Jim Javenkoski
To: IMPURE-L@PIG.CKS.COM
MOONSHAKE was scuttled by Too Pure in 1995 due to the debt the band
had accrued. Then they signed a 3 album contract with C/Z Records,
but the label has now folded. The band signed only a 1 album deal
with WorldDom U.K. and that was to market *Dirty & Divine* in Europe.
Further, there are still no less than *ten* MOONSHAKE remixes collecting
dust in London and Seattle, respectively. In 1995, the following artists
remixed these tracks:
LOOP GURU: "Right To Fly"
SEEFEEL: "Right To Fly"
SCANNER: "We're Making War (Filter Block remix)"
Apparently, the tapes are buried somewhere in Paul Cox's desk at Too
Pure.
At least that is what he confessed last time I spoke with him. =)
Further,
seven more remixes of tracks from *Dirty & Divine* were commissioned by
C/Z Records in 1996:
RICH COSTY: "Exotic Siren Song"
LUCID: "The Taboo"
ROBIN GUTHRIE: "Cranes"
ROBERT HAMPSON: "Nothing But Time"
JOHN McENTIRE: "Cranes (Tortoise Shell Jungle mix)"
TODD NICKOLAS: "Aqualisa" (instrumental)
There are actually 4 different ROBERT HAMPSON remixes but probably only
two
of them, including an instrumental, will be released. So, there are at
least
10 and perhaps more remixes that are being embargoed by Paul Cox and
Daniel
House.
Would anyone care to finance the purchase of these tracks? The *Dirty &
Divine*
remixes can be had for a mere $5,000. =)
-End forwarded message-
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From: Zimbo81@AOL.COM
To: COCTEAU-L@PIG.CKS.COM
Subject: Re: Veldt
Date: Tuesday, October 28, 1997 6:04 PM
In a message dated 97-10-24 00:06:41 EDT, Stratton Davis wrote:
<<
Speaking of the Veldt, does anyone(mike?) know if Liz sings back up on
'Willow Tree'? It sounds *just* like her but she's not in the credits at
all.
Stratton(another Veldt fan) >>
as far as i know, Liz did not sing on "willow tree". she did sing on a
Veldt
song that appears on an unreleased, Robin-produced record... we can thank
Capitol for scrapping that one.
-mike
p.s.- if there's any other Veldt fans out there, please mail me! also, you
can check them out at: http://www.musicshack.com/veldt/index.html
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From: Stratton Davis
To: CT Discussion List
Subject: just a reminder about mail delivery
Date: Friday, October 31, 1997 1:35 AM
Hello fellow listies,
I know this doesn't pertain to all, but it's something that needs to be
addressed. I just want to remind some of you that when you leave town or
don't check your email for a while your mailbox with your Internet Service
Provider will fill up. When this happens, all messages sent to your box
will bounce back to where they originated from...in the case of messages
from this list, they will bounce back to me. If this happens, then I will
reset your options to disable mail delivery for your account. That means
you won't get any messages from the mailing list until you reset for mail
delivery. But if your mailbox is full, you won't know that your account
has been changed...you'll just think the list is down or no one is
posting.
The only reason I mention this is because I have had to disable about 20
different accounts in the past couple of weeks for this very reason.
Please take the time to turn off your own mail delivery if you're going to
be away. Not only is it courteous to the list, but it also allows you to
be remain in control of your account.
To disable mail delivery:
Send a message to: LISTSERV@PIG.CKS.COM
In the body of your message type: SET COCTEAU-L NOMAIL
To reset for mail delivery:
Send this message to the same address: SET COCTEAU-L MAIL
Any questions? Feel free to email me.
Stratton
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stratton@ballistic.com
& don't go imagining that time is medicine
mark those days & swallow your pills
-medicine...the sundays